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Stephen Doherty
(-After 1872)
Ann Walsh
(-Bef 1860)
Thomas O'Neil
(Abt 1812-1882)
Mary Ann O'Hare
(Abt 1824-1856)
Patrick O'Doherty
(1836-1914)
Catherine O'Neil
(1845-1924)

Joseph Doherty
(1881-1970)

 

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Spouses/Children:
Malvina Julien

Joseph Doherty 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

  • Born: 21 Mar 1881, Québec 2 3 4 5 8 11
  • Christened: 21 Mar 1881, St. Patrick, Québec City, Québec 8 11
  • Marriage: Malvina Julien on 3 Sep 1912 in Ste-Colombe-de-Sillery, Québec 1 2
  • Died: 25 Nov 1970, Québec City, Québec aged 89 11
  • Buried: 28 Nov 1970 11
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bullet  General Notes:

I have checked the info we have on Joseph O'Doherty (Mike's Grandfather). Our family history book says that he was Born March 1880 and Died Nov. 25, 1970 and married Malvina Sept.3, 1912. (no supporting documentation, however)
We have his siblings listed as Mary Ellen Catherine (Nellie) B. 20 Oct. 1885, D. Aug. 27, 1957
m. 4 Sept. 1916 - Archibald David Laurie
Mary-Ann (Cissie) b. ? d. 1941? m. 6 Sept. 1909 John J Murphy
Patrick m. 30 Jun. 1913. Briget McClintock
William John m. 4 Sept. 1911 Jane (Jeannie) McHugh
Mike's Great Grandfather was Patrick m. 5 Feb 1872 Catherine O'Neil
Catherine or Kate O'Neil , married Patrick's who was her step-mother's brother according to our info.
Pat was uncle to Ellie, Mary-Ann, Maggie and Tom O'Neil and also brother-in-law.
This explains why Frank didn't think there was an Ellen as she went by Nellie and the aunties all had nick-names.

bullet  Research Notes:

Search for any Joseph O'Doherty in Quebec, born 1880
(only 1 less than 8 years old. and that one was born March of 1881 , just about perfect as the family has a birth date of 9 March, 1880.

1881, Census Place: Champlain Ward, Quebec, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Source: FHL Film 1375847 NAC C-13211 Dist 79 SubDist K Div 3 Page 29 Family 200

Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace

Patk. O'DOHERTY M M 40 Irish Ireland
Occ: Laborer Religion: Catholic
Kate O'DOHERTY F M 30 Irish Q <Quebec>
Religion: Catholic
Will. O'DOHERTY M 7 Irish Q <Quebec>
Religion: Catholic
Patk. O'DOHERTY M 5 Irish Q <Quebec>
Religion: Catholic
Mary A. O'DOHERTY F 2 Irish Q <Quebec>
Religion: Catholic
Joseph O'DOHERTY M Irish Q <Quebec>
Religion: Catholic
Born: Mar; age 0

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bullet  Noted events in his life were:

• Residence, 1881, Champlain Ward, Quebec, Quebec. 3

• Occupation: apprentice Plumber, 1901, Québec City, Québec. 4

• Occupation: Steam Fitter, 1911, Quebec City, Quebec. 12

• Occupation: plumber, 1913, Québec. 7

• Occupation: Steam-fitter, 1919, Québec, P.Q. 9

• Occupation: Plumber, 1922, Québec. 10


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Joseph married Malvina Julien, daughter of Octave Julien and Margaret Shortiss, on 3 Sep 1912 in Ste-Colombe-de-Sillery, Québec.1 2 (Malvina Julien was born on 1 Feb 1880 in Ste-Colomb-de-Sillery, Québec 2 13 14 15, christened on 1 Feb 1880 in Ste-Colomb-de-Sillery, Québec,15 died on 6 Sep 1969 in Québec 11 and was buried on 9 Sep 1969 in St. Patrick's cemetery, Sillery, Québec 11.)


bullet  Marriage Notes:

ordered marriage registration for Joseph O'Doherty, abt 1912, Quebec City, P.Q.
Jan 29, 2003, received a telephone call from a govt agent in Quebec city advising that their records are not adequate to locate the marriage record of Joseph and Maliva Julien without knowing the exact church parish of the marriage...

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Sources


1 La famille Julien, Bernard Julien , bernjulien@hotmail.com, http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5858/anglais.htm. O'Doherty, Joseph Sexe: Masculin
Fils de: Patrick & Catherine O'Neil
Famille O'Doherty - Julien
Mariage: 3 septembre 1912 à St-Colomb, Sillery Québec
|-----Julien, Joseph
|-----Julien, Octave
|-----Boivin, Ursule
Julien, Malvina
|-----Shortiss, Margaret Hortess
Sexe: Féminin
______________________________________________

|-----Julien, Jacques
|-----Julien, Joseph
|-----Ratté, Brigitte
Julien, Octave
|-----Boivin, Ursule
Sexe: Masculin
Famille Julien - Shortiss
Mariage: 12 octobre 1874 à St-Colomb, Sillery Québec
Shortiss, Margaret Hortess Sexe: Féminin

Les 7 enfants du couple Julien - Shortiss Julien,

Annie ou Anita
× 1913 Boisvert, Edgard

Julien, Marie Joséphine
× 1912 Desrosiers, Thomas Damasse

Julien, Malvina
× 1912 O'Doherty, Joseph

Julien, Emma Sexe: Féminin

Julien, Henriette Sexe: Féminin

Julien, Anita Sexe: Féminin

Julien, François-James
× 1928 Klans, Eva-Belenger


2 O'Dougherty - Julien marriage registration, 1912. :
Quebec
Copy of an Act of marriage
place and date of marriage: Sillery, year 1912 month 09, day 03

Wife: : Julien, Malvina
Place of birth: Sillery, place of registration of birth: Sillery
Date of birth: year 1880, month 02, day 01
Mother's full name: Shorties, Margaret
Father's full name: Julien, Octave
full name of witness: Julien, Frank

Husband: O'Dougherty, Joseph
Place of birth: Québec, registration of birth: Québec
Date of birth: year 1881, month 09, day 09
Mother's full name: O'Neil, Catherine
Father's full name: O'Dougherty, Patrick
full name of witness: O'Doherty, P.O.

signatures: Malvina Julien (signed)
Joseph O'Dougherty (signed)
wife's witness: Frank Julien (signed)
husband's witness: P. O. O'Doherty (signed)

officiant: Maguire, A. E., Minister of religion
signature of registrar of civil status: Jacques Saint-Laurent (signed)
registration number: 2191204804846

3 1881 census, Champlain Ward, Quebec, Quebec, National Archives of Canada, 1881 census, Champlain Ward, Quebec, Quebec, film C-13211 Dist 79 SubDist K. :
1881, Census Place: Champlain Ward, Quebec, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Source: FHL Film 1375847 NAC C-13211 Dist 79 SubDist K Div 3 Page 29 Family 200
Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace
Patk. O'DOHERTY M M 40 Irish Ireland, Occ: Laborer Religion: Catholic
Kate O'DOHERTY F M 30 Irish Q <Quebec>, Religion: Catholic
Will. O'DOHERTY M 7 Irish Q <Quebec>, Religion: Catholic
Patk. O'DOHERTY M 5 Irish Q <Quebec>, Religion: Catholic
Mary A. O'DOHERTY F 2 Irish Q <Quebec>, Religion: Catholic
Joseph O'DOHERTY M Irish Q <Quebec>, Religion: Catholic Born: Mar; age 0

1881, Census Place:Champlain Ward, Quebec, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Source:FHL Film 1375847 NAC C-13211 Dist 79 SubDist K Div 2 Page 56 Family 339

SexMarrAgeOriginBirthplace
Patrick KEATINGMM53EnglishIreland
Religion:Catholic
Margret KEATINGFM43IrishIreland
Religion:Catholic
James SHORTESM21IrishQ <Quebec>
Occ:LaborerReligion:Catholic
Christinia SHORTESF12IrishQ <Quebec>
Religion:Catholic

4 1901 census, Champlain ward, Quebec City, Quebec, National Archives of Canada, 1901 census, Champlain ward, Quebec City, Quebec. :
page 5, line 21
family 41
O'Doherty, Patrick, male, white, Head, married , born 10 June 1836, age 64, Ireland, immigration date 1856, occupation Wharfinger, employed 8 months, earnings $320
", Catherine, female, white, Wife, married, born 12 Aug, 1851, age 49, born Quebec,
", William, male, white, Son, single, born 8 Feb, 1875, age 26, Quebec, Ship Laborer, $270
", Patrick, male, white, Son, single, born 10 Aug, 1876, age 24, Quebec, Ship Laborer, $300
", Mary A, female, white, Daughter, single, born 11 June 1878, age 22, Quebec, Mantle Maker, $208
", Joseph, male, white, Son, single, born 21 March, 1881, age 20, born Quebec, apprentice Plumber, $144
", Ellen, female, white, Daughter, single, born 21 Oct, 1885, age 15, Quebec,

(note by jca.. the 1851 birth date given here for Catherine O'Doherty does not match any of the previous census records and is surely in error?)
(the 1911 census for the father Patrick shows a birth date of July 1845, and age 65. a lot of inconsistancies here for sure) The sons and daughters fair better in this regard.

Champlain Ward, B-3, page 5, family 46
Mullins, Patrick, male, Head, married, birth: Nov 20, 1860, age 61
Mullins, Annie, female, Wife, married, birth: June 1, 1867, age 34
Mullins, Mary E, female, daughter, single, birth July 6, 1895
Mullins, William, male, son, July 6, 1896, age 5
Mullins, Monica, female, daughter, Nov 21, 1898, age 3
Mullins, Mary, female, daughter, dec 6, 1901, age 1

5 O'Dougherty, Joseph, birth registration, 1881. :
Quebec
Copy of an act of birth
Identification of child: O'Dougherty, Joseph
Date of birth: Year 1881, month 09, day 09,
Sex: Male
Place of birth: Québec

Mother: O'Neil, Catherine
Father: O'Dougherty, Patrick

mother's signature: (blank)
father's signature: Patrick O'Dougherty (signed)
date of signature: Year 1881, month 09, day 10

signature of officer of civil status: Jacques Saint-Laurent (signed)
date of signature: Year 1881, month 09 day 10
registration No. 1188104600146

6 O'Doherty, Francis Edgar, Baptism certificate, St. Patrick's Church, Québec, P.Q. Canada. St. Patrick's Church.
Quebec, P. Q. Can.

120 Baptism Certificate #40
Name: Francis Edgar O'Doherty
Born: May 11, 1920
Baptized: May 13, 1920
Father's Name: Joseph O'Doherty, steam fitter
Mothers's Name: Melvina Julien

Sponsors: Edgar Boisvert, Mrs. Edgar Boisvert

Which extract we the undersigned Priest, certify to be conformable to the original, as
deposited in the Archives of the said Parish for the year: nineteen hundred and twenty
Given at Quebec, June 20, 1940

Signed: P J Gallery, C.SS,

7 O'Doherty, Joseph Francis Patrick, baptismal record. :
1913, St Patrick's , Québec
Baptism 49
Joseph Francis Patrick O'Doherty
On the twentieth day of June, nineteen hundred
and thirteen, we the undersigned priest have
baptized Joseph Francis Patrick O'Doherty, born
on the eighteenth instant of the lawful marriage
of Joseph O'Doherty, plumber, and of Melvina Julien
of Quebec. Sponsors, Octave Julien and Mrs Julien both
undersigned with the father

(signed) Joseph O Doherty
(signed) Octave Julien
(signed) Mrs Julien
(signed) P. J. O. Hare. C S S R.

8 O'Doherty, Joseph, baptismal record, 1881, St. Patrick's, Québec, P.Q. :
1881, Baptism 60,
Patrick Doherty [big time sic- should have written Joseph Doherty.. jca]

On the twenty first day of March, One Thousand
Eight Hundred and Eighty one, we the undersigned
priest have baptized Joseph Doherty, born this
morning of the lawful marriage of Patrick ODoherty
and Catharine O'Neil of Quebec. Sponsors: James Mullin and Kate Mullin
undersigned . The father declares he could not sign his name.
(signed) James Mullin
(signed) Kate. Mullin

(signed) J. McCarthy, CSSR

9 O'Doherty, Catherine Patricia, baptismal record, 1919, St. Patrick's, Québec, P.Q. :
1919, Baptism 12, Catherine Patricia O'Doherty
On the eleventh day of March, nineteen hundred
and nineteen, we the undersigned priest
have baptized Catherine Patricia, born on the
ninth instant of the lawful marriage of
Joseph O'Doherty, Steam-fitter, and Malvina
Jelien [sic] of Quebec. Sponsors. Patrick O'Doherty
and Bridget O'Doherty. both undersigned with the father.

(signed) J ODoherty
(signed) P. O. Doherty
(signed) Bridget O Doherty
(signed) Daniel Holland?, CSSR

10 O'Doherty, Margaret Cecilia, baptismal record, 1922, St. Patrick's, Québec. P.Q. :
1922, Baptism 22, Margaret Cecilia O'Doherty
On the fifth da of March nineteen
hundred and twenth two we the undersigned pries have baptized Margaret
Cecilia O'Doherty
born on the first instant of the lawful marriage of
Joseph O' Doherty Plumber and Malvina Julien
of this parish . Sponsors: John J. Murphy and
Mrs. John J. Murphy undersigned with the father

(signed) Joseph ODoherty
(signed) Mrs. John J. Murphy
(signed) John Murphy
(signed) Charles J. O'Hara, CSSr

11 O'Doherty's Genealogy, 61 pages, O'Doherty's Genealogy Presented 1995 to Rita and Frank O'Doherty on their 50th Wedding Anniversary by Suzon and Joe. (Photocopy held by Michael and Ruth (Dyson) O'Doherty of Kelowna, B.C.) 61 pages of typewritten documentation detailing the O'Doherty family.

12 1911 census, Champlain Ward, Quebec City West, Quebec, National Archives of Canada. :
District 189 Quebec West , subdistrict 2, enumeration district 2 in Champlain Ward
page 16
family number: 6
Doherty, Patrick , address 127 Champlain, male, Head, married, born July 1845, age 65, born Ireland, immigration: 1855, Irish, Canadian, R Catholic, occupation: [blank]
" Catherine, 127 Champlain, female, Wife, married, born Nov 1850, age 60, born Quebec, Irish, Canadian, R Catholic
" Willie, 127 Champlain, male, Son, single, born Feb 1875, age 36, born Quebec, Irish, Canadian, R Catholic, Constable
" Patrick, 127 Champlain, male, Son, single, born Aug 1876, age 34, born Quebec, Irish, Canadian, R Catholic, Clerk
" Joseph, 127 Champlain, male, Son, single, born Mar 1879, age 32, born Quebec, Irish, Canadian, R Catholic. Steam Fitter
" Nellie, 127 Champlain, female, Daughter, single, born Oct 1886, age 24, born Quebec, Irish, Canadian, R Catholic, Stenographer

13 1881 census, Ste-Colomb-de-Sillery, Quebec, Quebec, Canada, FHL Film 1375848 NAC C-13212 Dist 80 SubDist I Div 3. 1881,Census Place:Ste-Colomb-de-Sillery, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Source:FHL Film 1375848 NAC C-13212 Dist 80 SubDist I Div 3 Page 41 Family 190

SexMarrAgeOriginBirthplace
Octave JULIENMM37FrenchQ <Quebec>
Occ:LaborerReligion:Roman Catholic
Margaret JULIENFM27ScottishQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
Margaret E. JULIENF3FrenchQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
Melvina JULIENF1FrenchQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
Mary SHORTESSF14ScottishQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
Robert SHORTESSM10ScottishQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
Pierre JULIENM35FrenchQ <Quebec>
Occ:LaborerReligion:Roman Catholic
__________________________________________________

1881 Census Place:Ste-Colomb-de-Sillery, Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Source:FHL Film 1375848 NAC C-13212 Dist 80 SubDist I Div 3 Page 38 Family 177
SexMarrAgeOriginBirthplace

Francois X. SAVARDMM30FrenchQ <Quebec>
Occ:JoinerReligion:Roman Catholic
Melvina SAVARDFM30FrenchQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
Joseph SAVARDM7FrenchQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
Jean SAVARD M5FrenchQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
Alexandrina SAVARDF3FrenchQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
Josephine SAVARDF1FrenchQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
Ursule JULIEN FW68FrenchQ <Quebec>
Religion:Roman Catholic
__________________________________
division I-2, page 32,

Julien, Honoré, male, age 42, born Quebec, Catholic, French origin, occupation Culler, married
", Eliza, female, age 43, born Québec, Catholic, French origin, married
", Honore, male, age 15, single
", Josephine, female, age 13, single
", Joseph E, male, age 10
", Eliza, female, age 9
", Marie, female, age 4
", Francois, male, age 6/12, born November
____________________________________
division I-2, page 14

Julien, Elzear, male, age 36 born Quebec, Catholic, French origin, Journalier, married
", Létizia, female, age 27, born Quebec, Catholic, French, married
", Elzear, male, age 14, single
", Emma, female, age 13, single
", Alfred, male, age 11, single
", Eugénie, female, age 9
", Francois, male, age 7
", Louis, male, age 5
", Rose, female, age 3

14 1901 census, Ste-Columb-de-Sillery, Quebec, National Archives of Canada, film T-6541, district 185, division F-3, page 6. :
family 51
Julien, Octave, male, Head, married, birthdate: 9 April, 1844, age 56, born Québec, French origin, Nationality: Canadian, Roman Catholic, occupation: Cont. pour chemine
", Marguerite , female, wife, married, birthdate: 22 June 1853, age 47, born Québec, Scottish origin, Canadian, Roman Catholic
", Marguerite E, female, daughter, single, birthdate: 22 February 1878, age 23, born Québec, French, Catholic
", Malvina, female, daughter, single, birthdate: 1 February 1880, age 21, born Québec, French, Catholic
", Francis, male, son, single, birthdate: 10 April 1881, age 19, born Québec, French, Catholic
", Mary, female, daughter, single, birthdate: 22 Sept 1884, age 16, born Québec, French, Catholic
", Josephine, female, daughter, single, birthdate: May 1889, age 12, born Québec, French, Catholic
", Annie, female, daughter, single, birthdate: 22 August 1891, age 9, born Québec, French, Catholic
", Henrietta, female, daughter, single, birthdate: 15 March 1893, age 8, born Québec, French, Catholic
", Anita, female, daughter, single, birthdate: 21 July 1896, age 4, born Québec, French, Catholic

15 Julien, Malvina, baptismal record, 1880, St-Colomb de Sillery, Québec, P.Q. :
Baptism 12
Malvina Julien
Le premier Fevrier mil huit cent
quatre vingt, nous prete
avons baptisé Malvina, néé de legitimé marriage de Octave
Julien, journelier, et de Margaret Shortiss de cette parish.
Sponsors: (signed) Francois Seingery?, Malvina Coutive?
(signed) Octave Julein

[ rough translation: but baptised Feb 1, 1880)


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