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Alice Randall Allsop
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Alice Randall Allsop 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
- Born: 25 Mar 1888, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England 2 4 5 8 10
- Marriage (1): Frederick (Fritz) Morad on 8 Apr 1912 in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England 1 2
- Marriage (2): Harry Vigurs in Not Likely Married
- Marriage (3): Carl Sparks
- Died: possibly abt 1968 ?, Montreal, Québec? aged 80
 General Notes:
1891 census, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, district 5
district 5, page 5
No. of schedule: 30
81 Abbey Street
George Truman, Head, married, age 47, Ret Labourer, born Worksop, Notts
Martha Truman, wife, married, age 36, born Grantham, Essex
district 5, page 5
No. of schedule: 33
87 Abbey Street
George Allsop, Head, married, age 28, occupation Sawyer, Circular, born Worksop, Notts.
Keturah Allsop, wife, married, age 26, occupation --? maker, born Worksop, Notts
Mary Ann Allsop, daughter, single, age 5, scholar, born Worksop, Notts
Alice Allsop, daughter, single, age 3, born Worksop, Notts
George Allsop, son, single, age 1, born Worksop, Notts
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1901 census, Whittington, Derbyshire, England.
RG13, Piece 3253, Folio 68, Page 15, Schedule 90
line 5
64 Church Street, Whittington, Derbyshire
George Allsop, Head, married, age 37, occupation: Circular Sawyer Timberyard, born Notts Worksop
Kelinah Allsop, Wife, married, age 35, born Notts Worksop
Alice ", daughter, age 13, attending School, born ditto ditto
George ", son, age 11, attending School, born ditto ditto
John ", son, age 9, attending School, born Yorks, Sheffield
Horace ", son age 7, attending School, born Lincoln, Gainsbro?
Ethel ", daughter, age 5, attending School, born Notts Worksop
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The Dyson family says that:
"Alice might have spent some time in France as she always had some French friends and also a french nanny. [likely Denyse Tauvron.. ?? as per witness on 1923 christening record of Catherine Denyse (Morad) Dyson...jca]
Alice and Frederick seperated and Alice went to Canada where she was involved in a pedestrian vehicle accident. The two girls were placed in an orphanage, and mother Alice moved to New York. Alice is believed to have died in United States or Canada but she did come back to visit the girls from time to time."
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NOTE: Alice Morad working for the Kennedy family as a domestic in London England on the 1911 census and then working again for the Kennedy family as a domestic in 1925 in Ottawa when she arrived by the SS Montrose. same family for sure....Maureen and jca..
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Research Notes:
August 21, 2010
Hi Jim:
Well, I spent today digging into our friend Alice again. Been trying to find a Harry Vigurs that would fit the dates we have managed to acquire.
I've been prompted by the recent visit with Ruth and Florence to see Catharine and Penny and have to tell you, I came away with my mind full of more questions! I have to say, there are some things that don't make sense, so it seems the best approach is to take very small steps in order to establish some reliable facts, and eliminate conjecture. This is all "off the cuff" for discussion purposes. It's just that two or more heads are sure better than one.
So now I'll proceed with conjecture.....
Catharine is such a neat lady and if you get a cup of tea, sit back with her and relax, she can take her time and think way back about what her life's experiences were. This is where we can pick up tidbits here, tidbits there and see what starts forming parts of her history.
I asked her about Roseberry House and if she recollected how she might have ended up there; moreover how long she might have lived there and with whom. e.g. did she have any recollection of Harry Vigurs? She speculated that perhaps he owned Roseberry and maybe even hired Denyse Thauvron. Also said her mother did stay there as well.
Then I asked if she could recall what age she might have been when she was sent to the orphanage in Swansea and did she know the name of it. I made notes for myself and later when we got back to Ruth's, we thought some clarification was needed as well as how Catharine got from an orphanage in Swansea and into nurse's training in London. Ruth talked to her mum the next day and got a bit more info:
Catharine was put with a family in Oxwich near Swansea. There was a father, mother and a little boy about the same age as Catharine. She thinks she was there before age 6 and probably stayed with them 1-2 years.
She then went into the orphanage in Swansea, might be St. Dunstan and we think would have been Catholic as Denyse had her baptized in an RC church on the Isle of Wight.
Catharine also mentioned that it was the people at the orphanage who told her they were really impressed her mum especially her ability with languages. So I'm asking where and why would they have been talking to her mum? Oh, they went to New York to look at her circumstances because she wanted to bring Catherine to New York. Ruth twigged immediately said whispered "I bet it was Denyse Thauvron", and we both think that's who they were talking to because it certainly sounds like Denyse was one of the women who put Catharine into "care".
My "evidence" is as follows: The earliest record of Denyse on the NY Passenger Lists is 1927 when she arrived in October from Cherbourg. Her occupation is teacher and could speak English, French, Spanish and Russian. Also the copy of Catharine's baptism showed it was verified in 1934. Catharine would have been 14 by then. Ruth found out from her mum that she went directly from Swansea to London into training at age 17.
Back to Alice: You were able to locate her working as a domestic in St Pancras on the 1911 Census with a family headed by Howard Angus Kennedy.
Did you notice that their daughter was born in Quebec? Also when Alice came to Canada, she was to work as a domestic for a family named Kennedy in Ottawa. Says I to myself, this looks a bit more than coincidental.
Turns out this Howard Kennedy made many trips between the UK and Canada, in fact, in November 1932 he noted he had lived in Ottawa between April 1881 and Oct 1932, and his address was 603 The Aylmer's, Ottawa, Ont.
Bingo!!!!!! Now we know why Alice decided to come to Canada - she had a job with the same Kennedy family she worked for in 1911 before she married Morad. Actually in 1933 Mr Kennedy said he lived 1881-1933 in Montreal and the address was 5010 Sherbrooke St W, Montreal.
A little tidbit to add: their son roderick Kennedy, joined up in WW1 and gave his next of kin as H A Kennedy of Lacombe, Alberta. (ref Canada Archives.. Roderick Stewart Kennedy , a farmer, born Dec 16, 1890 in Montreal West. next of kin H. A. Kennedy in Lacombe Alberta)
I know this is a long and dragged out missive from me and I hope I have put it all in some sort of logical order. Not all of this is suitable for the web, but if you tell me what is appropriate, I can organize and send it back to you for ease of input.
By the way, Harry Vigurs? There is a wad of them in Fulham and there is a Harry born 4Q 1887 Vol 1a page 255, that might fit the bill, but I haven't managed anything more. Looking at the occupations of the various Vigur names, I don't see anyone who might have afforded Roseberry House.
Did find in the Wills website a Laura Vigurs (Vicurs) of 9 Goodhall-street, Willesden Junction Middlesex, Widow, died 7 Mar 1915 at Kingswood-road, Chiswick, Middlesex. administration London 31 Mar to Harry Vigurs, Constable. Effects 162 pounds 4s 10d. This is probably Harry Last Vigurs, the policeman who died before Spencer Dyson did, which just adds to the confusion as to whether it was Morad or Vigurs that Grethe told Catharine to go after for some money after Spencer died.
That's it -- thanks for being patient with me!
Maureen
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____Call #: Shortt FC3215 .K466 1928 Author: Kennedy, Howard Angus, 1861-1938 </northwest/index/author/91.html>
Title: The North-West Rebellion / by Howard Angus Kennedy. Published: Toronto : Ryerson Press, [c1928] Description: 32 p. : ill., facsims. ; 19 cm. Notes: Cover title. Another copy in Pamphlet LXII-41 A brief history of both resistances written for school children. Kennedy was a correspondent for the Times (London) during the 1885 Resistance and his first hand account includes some useful details. Subject: Northwest Rebellion, 1885 </northwest/index/subject/17.html>
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August, 21, 2010,
Jim:
Sometimes I have to look again and again to see info you have already recorded on the web.
You retrieved her emigration info from "Find My Past" and have highlighted at the bottom that she had given her last permanent address as being:
Gohens Burton, Villaney Cottage, Oxwich
Of course, as we learned from Catharine, she lived with a family in Oxwich before she went to the orphanage in Swansea. It then looks more and more possible that it really was Alice that arranged for Catharine to enter the orphanage before she immigrated to Canada, and not Denyse Thauvron.
I've attached the 2 immigration documents: Alice's, which shows her coming to work for the Kennedy family and the 1932 record of Howard Kennedy (who Alice was working for in 1911 England Census) living at the same address in Ottawa that Alice arrived at in 1925. This place in Swansea might have been a boarding school rather than just an orphanage???
That Catharine still has a pretty good memory, doesn't she.
Cheers, Maureen.
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James,
Re Alice (Allsop) Morad:
The only thing I would like to add is that as far as anyone knows her move to America was possibly precipitated by the death of her husband. She left the girls in the custody of two maiden lady friends and went to New York first and then later to Canada. She was living in New York in 1947/48 when Mum and I came to Canada as we stopped and visited her and we had portraits done with her. She apparently came seeking work but was in an accident and very badly injured and so the girls were sent to school in Greta's case and an orphanage in my mum's case. I don't think they ever expected her to survive. Ruth (Dyson) O'Doherty, June 3, 2005
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Note that Keturah Allsop had a younger sister also named Alice... jca
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National Archives of Canada, Immigration records.
Surname: Morad
Given Name: Alice
Age: 36
Sex F
Nationality: Br
Date of arrival: 1925/04/12
Port of arrival: Saint John, New Brunswick
Ship: Montrose, Canadian Pacific
Reference: RG76-IMMIGRATION, series C-1-c
Volume 1925 - volume 3
Page 79
Microfilm reel: T-14846
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This SSN death registration is interesting but may not pan out....... jca
Name: Alice Morad
SSN: 065-44-4409
Last Residence: 14527 Penn Yan, Yates, New York, United States of America
Born: 31 Jul 1895
Died: 20 Apr 1995
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1967-1968 )
( note the birth date doesn't seem to have any bearing on "our" Alice Morad.. jca.
but ordered anyway on Dec 4, 2010.. jca
no joy on this one either.. father shows as Salin Morad, mother: Rashed (no maiden name)
Oct 22, 2010. Searched SSN death registrations again looking for any Alice with birth date of March 25, 1888 and only found 1 item even close to New York state and that was for :
Alice Chambers, SSN 138-20-9796, issued in New Jersey. last address: XX953 (US Consulate: CANADA)
death date: Nov 1972, age 84.
Received this SSN application all ok a few weeks later, and it was not our gal Alice Morad.. It was clearly for a spinster Alice Chambers, born in New Brunswick.. too bad. jca.. Now to order the one for the above Alice Morad , even tho the birth date does not match our Alice Morad.. have to order anyway.. jca
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Noted events in her life were:
• Residence: Abbey Street, 1888, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England. 4
• Residence: 64 Church Street, 1901, Whittington, Derbyshire, England. 10
• Residence: 71 Gordon Mansions, 1911, St. Pancras, London, England. 8
• Occupation: General Domestic Servant for Howard Angus Kennedy.., 1911, St. Pancras, London, England. 8
• Residence: 188 Edmund Rd, 1912, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England. 2
• Residence: 66 Carlton Vale, 1913, Willesden, Middlesex, England. 11
• Residence: 302 Fulham Palace Road, Jan 1920, Fulham, County of London. 7
• Residence: Gohens Burton, Villaney Cottage, Oxwich, 3 Apr 1925, Oxwich, (Westglamorgan), Wales. (in Westglamorgan, Wales)
• Immigration: SS Montrose, Canadian Pacific, 12 Apr 1925, St. John, New Brunswick. 6 12
• Employment: Domestic, Apr 1925, J. Kennedy, 603, The Aylmers, Ottawa. 13
• Occupation: Rand McNally, 1946, New York, New York. 14
• Residence: New Gardens, 15 83-96 117 Street, 9 Dec 1946, New York, New York. 15
Alice married Frederick (Fritz) Morad, son of John Morad and Unknown, on 8 Apr 1912 in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England.1 2 (Frederick (Fritz) Morad was born about 1875 in Germany 1 2 16.)
Marriage Notes:
Certified copy of an entry of marriage,
1912, Marriage solemnized at The Parish Church, in the Parish of St. Mary's, Sheffield in the County of York
No. 13
When married: April 8, 1912
Name: Fritz Morad, age 35, Bachelor, profession: Baker,
residence: 195 St. Georges Street, London, E.
Father's Name: John Morad (deceased), profession: Carpenter
Alice Allsop, age 24, Spinster,
residence: 188 Edmund Rd.
Father's name: George Allsop, profession: Sawyer
married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, Arthur Robinson.
This marriage was solemnized between us,
Fritz Morad, Alice Allsop
in the presence of us: George Allsop, Mary Annie Allsop, George Allsop, Mary Jenkins
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I will try and find more about the family in the new year. I have always thought that grandmother's maiden name was Randal or Randall. Grandfather was a Rhinelander, I believe, but I don't think my mother ever knew whether he was from the German or the French side. He seemed to like the idea of being which ever of the two nationalities suited at the time. His surname was Morad. He seems to have used Fritz, Francois or Francis as first names. I have never known Alice as "Allsop", but only ever heard her referred to as Alice Randal, Alice Randal Morad or Alice Morad, except that I believe she remarried when she went to USA, but I do not recollect the name of the man she married. I shall let you know as and when I discover more.
Best wishes to you all from the family here for Chritmas and 2003.
Robert Denman, Dec 24, 2002
Alice next had a relationship with Harry Vigurs in Not Likely Married.
Alice next married Carl Sparks.
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Sources
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Dyson, Catherine, interview, Nov 5, 2001, Dec 26, 2002, Mar 19, 2003, Mrs. Catherine Dyson, Kelowna, B.C. I got married at a private ceremony in Vancouver, B.C. on the 19th of December 1946 after arriving by air into Vancouver the previous day. (interview by James Anderson on 19 October, 2010 in Kelowna, B.C.)
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Morad - Allsop , marriage registration, 1912, General Register Office, England. :
Certified copy of an entry of marriage,
1912, Marriage solemnized at The Parish Church, in the Parish of St. Mary's, Sheffield in the County of York
No. 13
When married: April 8, 1912
Name: Fritz Morad, age 35, Bachelor, profession: Baker,
residence: 195 St. Georges Street, London, E.
Father's Name: John Morad (deceased), profession: Carpenter
Alice Allsop, age 24, Spinster,
residence: 188 Edmund Rd.
Father's name: George Allsop, profession: Sawyer
married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, Arthur Robinson.
This marriage was solemnized between us,
Fritz Morad, Alice Allsop
in the presence of us: George Allsop, Mary Annie Allsop, George Allsop, Mary Jenkins
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Morad, Catherine Irene Denyse, baptism certificate, 1920, The Sacred Heart, Shanklin, Isle of Wight, England, Certificate of Baptism, The Sacred Heart Catholic Church, Shanklin, Isle of Wight,. :
Certificate of Baptism.
I certify that Catherine Irene Denyse Morad daughter of Frederick Morad and Alice Morad (formerly) Allsop, was born on the 31st day of January, 1920 and was baptised on the 19th day of February, 1923, at the Church of the Sacred Heart, Shanklin, Isle of Wight, by the Rev. Patrick J. MacSwiney.
The sponsors were Denyse Thauvron and ------.
And I further Certify that the above is a true copy of the Register kept in the Catholic Church at THE SACRED HEART, SHANKLIN, ISLE OF WIGHT.
signed, Edward H Clark, date 3rd June 1934
[Denyse Thauvron spent much of her life at this time in New York as per this arrival back in New York in September, 1934.
New York Passenger lists: 1820-1957
Denyse Thauvron,
arrival date: 21 Sep 1934
est birth year: abt 1889 Female
departure: Cherbourg, France
Place of origin: French
Ship Name: Berengaria
Name: Denyse Thauvron Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Age: 45 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France Place of Origin: French Ship Name: Berengaria, Port of Arrival: New York, New York Nativity: England Line: 19 Microfilm Serial: T715 Microfilm Roll: T715_5551 Birth Location: England Birth Location Other: Geugnon Page Number: 124]
. US Social Security Death Index:
Name: Denyse Thauvron
SSN: 571-05-5845
Last Residence: 10016 New York, New York, New York, United States of America
Born: 4 Apr 1889
Last Benefit: 10021 New York, New York, New York, United States of America
Died: Feb 1978 State (Year)
SSN issued: California (Before 1951)
[This SSN death index is the only "Thauvron" listed on available indexes and it just happens to be a
Denyse Thauvron and could easily be the nanny to Catherine Irene Denyse Morad. jca
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New York Passenger Lists, Ancestry.com
Name: Denise Thauvron
Arrival Date: 22 Sep 1935
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Age: 46 Gender: Female
Occupation: Teacher
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Place of Origin: United States of America
Ship Name: Champlain Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: French
Line: 15 Microfilm Serial: T715 Microfilm Roll: 5708 Page Number: 30
Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States
Birth Location: France
Birth Location Other: Guenignen
Last Permanent Residence: U.S.A., Philadelphia, Pa.
Name: Denyse Maria Thauvron
Arrival Date: 13 Sep 1937
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Age: 48, Gender: Female , Single
Occupation: Teacher
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Place of Origin: United States of America
Ship Name: Normandie,
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Natonality: French
Line: 6 Microfilm Serial: T715 Microfilm Roll: 6044, Page Number: 47
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Birth Location: France
Birth Location Other: Gueugnon
Last permanent address: U.S.A., Palo Alto, Cal.
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Allsop, Alice, birth registration , 1888, General Register Office. :
Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth, given at the General Register Office
Registration District: Worksp,
1888 Birth in the Sub-District of Worksop, in the County of Nottingham
No. 1
When and Where Born: Twenty fifth March 1888, Abbey Street, Worksop
Name: Alice
Sex: Girl
Name and surname of father: George Allsop
Name and surname of mother: Keturah Allsop, formerly Trueman
Occupation of Father: Circular Sawyer
informant: Geo. Allsop, Father, Abbey Street, Worksop
When registered : Twenty fourth April, 1888,
registrar: William White, Registrar
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1891 census, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, district 5. :
district 5, page 5
No. of schedule: 30
81 Abbey Street
George Truman, Head, married, age 47, Ret Labourer, born Worksop, Notts
Martha Truman, wife, married, age 36, born Grantham, Essex
district 5, page 5
No. of schedule: 33
87 Abbey Street
George Allsop, Head, married, age 28, occupation Sawyer, Circular, born Worksop, Notts.
Keturah Allsop, wife, married, age 26, occupation --? maker, born Worksop, Notts
Mary Ann Allsop, daughter, single, age 5, scholar, born Worksop, Notts
Alice Allsop, daughter, single, age 3, born Worksop, Notts
George Allsop, son, single, age 1, born Worksop, Notts
district 5, page 34
No. of schedule: 22
42 Betherton Road
William Truman, Head, married, age 53, Sawyer, employed, born Worksop, Notts
Susanah Truman, Wife, married, age 53, born Ordsall, Notts
Sarah J Truman, daughter, single, age 20, Dressmaker, born Worksop, Notts
Alice Truman, daughter, single, age 11, scholar
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Canadian Immigration records, 1925, NAC film T-14846, Reference: RG76-IMMIGRATION, series C-1-c, Volume 1925 - volume 3, Page 79. Canadian Immigration Service, Vol 3, page 79
S. S. Montrose, Sailing from Liverpool, April 3, 1925 arriving at St. John N.B. April 12, 1925
Sheet No. 20, Third Class
line 17
Family name: Morad
Given Name: Alice
Relationship: None
Female: Age: 36, Married
Place of Birth: England, Worksop
Nationality: British
Race or People: German by marriage
Ever refused entry to Canada: No
Do you intend to reside permanently in Canada: Yes
Can you read: Yes
What language: English, French
By whom was passage paid: Self
What trade or occupation in your own county: Domestic
What trade or occupation do you intend to follow in Canada: Domestic
If destined to relative, friend or employer state which and give name and full address:
Employer:, J. Kennedy, 603, The Aylmers, Ottawa
Give name, relationship and address of nearest relative in the country from which you came:
G. Allsop, Father, 451 Queens Rd., Sheffield
Passport number, place and date of issue: 56118, London, 9.2.25
Money in possession of passenger: 0000
Travelling inland on: C.P.R.
Action take and Civil Examiner: LANDED Immigrant [initials of EJM]
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Vigurs, Katherine Irene, birth registration, 1920, GRO, England. :
Certified Copy of and Entry of Birth Given at the General Register Office
Registration District: FULHAM
1920 Birth in the Sub-District of North West Fulham in the County of London.
No. 277
When and Where born: Thirty first January, 1920, 302 Fulham Palace Road
Name: Katherine Irene
Sex: Girl
Name and Surname of father: Harry Vigurs
Name, Surname and maiden surname of mother: Alice Morad Vigurs, formerly Allsop
Occupation of Father: Private Enquiry Agent of 49 Haverstock Hill, Hampstead N.W.
Informant: A. M. Vigurs, Mother, 302 Fulham Palace Road
When registered: Twelfth February, 1920
Registrar: A. Busby
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1911 census, London,St.Pancras, Enumeration Distict 8. :
1911 census
71 Gordon Mansions, London, St. Pancras, South St. Pancras, Enumeration District 8
Kennedy, Howard, Angus, married, male, age 49, Journalist, born London, Stepney
Kennedy, Louise, Wife, married, female, age 55, born United States
Kennedy, Helen Louise, Daughter, single, female, age 23, born Canada, Quebec Province
Allsop, Alice, Servant, single, female, age 23, General Domestic Servant, born Notts, Worksop
[note Howard Angus Kennedy was a news correspondent ]
Call #: Shortt FC3215 .K466 1928 Author: Kennedy, Howard Angus, 1861-1938 </northwest/index/author/91.html>
Title: The North-West Rebellion / by Howard Angus Kennedy. Published: Toronto : Ryerson Press, [c1928] Description: 32 p. : ill., facsims; 19 cm. Notes: Cover title. Another copy in Pamphlet LXII-41 A brief history of both resistances written for school children. Kennedy was a correspondent for the Times (London) during the 1885 Resistance and his first hand account includes some useful details. Subject: Northwest Rebellion, 1885 </northwest/index/subject/17.html>
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Dyson - Morad, Marriage registration, 1946, BC Archives. :
Certified True Copy of Registration Document
Province of British Columbia
Registration Of Marriage
1. Place of Marriage:
City: Port Coquitlam
Street: Trinity United Manse
BRIDEGROOM
2. Name: Dyson Spenser Dampier
3. Trade, Profession or kind of work: Manager
4. Kind of industry or business: Experimental Station
5. Bachelor/widowed/divorced: Divorced
6. Age: 40
7. Religious Denomination: Umited Church
8. Citizenship: Canadian
9. Racial Origin: English
10. Residence: Dominion Experimental Station
East Kelowna, BC
11. Place of Birth: South Africa - Zeerust
12. Name of Father: Dyson Arthur
13. Maiden Name of Mother: Hudson Florence
14. Birthplace Father: India
15. Birthplace Mother: Wales
BRIDE
15. Name: Morad Catherine Irene Denyse
16. Trade or profession: Registered Nurse
17. Kind of Industry:
18. Spinster/Widiw/Divorced: Spinster
19. Age: 26
20. Religious Denomination: Protestant C of E
21. Citizenship: British
22. Racial Origin: English
23.Residence: Radley, 43 Marlborough Rd., Ipswich, Suffolk, England
24. Place of Birth: London, England
25. Name of Father: Morad Frederick
26. Maiden Name of Mother: Alsopp Alice Randall
27.Birthplace Father: England
Birthplace Mother: France
28. Date of Marriage: December 16 1946
29 Licence or Banns: Licence
30. Licence No. 93992-8?
31.
32. Signature of Groom: Spenser Dampier Dyson
Bride: Catherine Irene Denyse Morad
33. Signature of Witnesses: Bernard Dyson Perry, 700 W Georgia St. Vanc.
Marion K.(?) Perry, Dewdney Trunk Rd. Port Coquitlam, BC
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1901 census, Whittington, Derbyshire, England. :
RG13, Piece 3253, Folio 68, Page 15, Schedule 90
line 5
64 Church Street, Whittington, Derbyshire
George Allsop, Head, married, age 37, occupation: Circular Sawyer Timberyard, born Notts Worksop
Keturah Allsop, Wife, married, age 35, born Notts Worksop
Alice ", daughter, age 13, attending School, born ditto ditto
George ", son, age 11, attending School, born ditto ditto
John ", son, age 9, attending School, born Yorks, Sheffield
Horace ", son age 7, attending School, born Lincoln, Gainsbro
Ethel ", daughter, age 5, attending School, born Notts Worksop
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Morad, Margerethe Annie, birth registration, 1913, General Register Office, Willesden registration district, volume 3a, page 661. :
Registration district: Willesden, 1913 birth in the Sub-District of Willesden, in the County of Middlesex
No. 101,
When and where born: First March 1913, 66 Carlton Vale, U.D.
Name: Margerethe Annie
Sex: Girl
Name of Father: Fritz Morad
Name of Mother: Alice Morad, formerly Allsop
Occupation of father: Baker (Journeyman)
signature of informant: Alice Morad, mother, 66 Carlton Vale
When registered: Thirty first March, 1913,
Registrar John Algar
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Morad, Alice, 1925, migration record, leaving UK, findmypast.com. Lastname, Firstname, Sex, Year of departure, Departure port, Destination country, Destination port,
MORAD, Alice, 35, F, 1925, Liverpool, Canada, Saint John Nb
Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
ticket #: 72972
Name: Alice MORAD
Date of departure: 2 April 1925
Port of departure: Liverpool
Destination port: Saint John Nb
Destination country: Canada
Age: 35
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: H Wife
last address in UK: Gohens Burton, Villaney Cottage, Oxwich
Notes: Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 21
Ship: MONTROSE Official Number: 145919 Master's name: Capt Landy Steamship Line: Canadian Pacific Where bound: Montreal, Canada Square feet: 23298 Registered tonnage: 9823 Passengers on voyage: 613
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note: next person showing on the same passenger list is:
ticket #: 72973
Brickel, Florence, of 52 Pemberton Gardens, London, Occupation Hotelwork, age 48
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Canadian Immigration Records, ancestry.com. Canadian Immigration Service, Vol 3, page 79
S. S. Montrose, Sailing from Liverpool, April 3, 1925 arriving at St. John N.B. April 12, 1925
Sheet No. 20, Third Class
line 17
Family name: Morad
Given Name: Alice
Relationship: None
Female: Age: 36, Married
Place of Birth: England, Worksop
Nationality: British
Race or People: German by marriage
Ever refused entry to Canada: No
Do you intend to reside permanently in Canada: Yes
Can you read: Yes
What language: English, French
By whom was passage paid: Self
What trade or occupation in your own county: Domestic
What trade or occupation do you intend to follow in Canada: Domestic
If destined to relative, friend or employer state which and give name and full address:
Employer:, J. Kennedy, 603, The Aylmers, Ottawa
Give name, relationship and address of nearest relative in the country from which you came:
G. Allsop, Father, 451 Queens Rd., Sheffield
Passport number, place and date of issue: 56118, London, 9.2.25
Money in possession of passenger: 0000
Travelling inland on: C.P.R.
Action take and Civil Examiner: LANDED Immigrant [initials of EJM]
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Dyson, Mrs. Catherine, personal knowledge, 2005, Mrs. Catherine (Morad) Dyson, Kelowna, B.C. June 2005. :
Catherine Dyson and daughter Ruth Dyson flew to New York and visited Alice Morad about 1946. Alice had been working for Rand McNally for some years prior to time as she spoke about seven languages and was useful to Rand McNally in their map making. Alice was living in a house at that time and also had a small private school that she operated out of her home.
Catherine knew the whereabouts of her mother Alice as a wife of one of the directors of the orphanage in England where Catherine was raised had visited with Alice earlier. The wife apparently was very impressed with Alice's abilities.
Catherine feels that Alice would have been in the USA prior to 1940 so won't likely be picked up on the (Canadian) National Registration File of 1940. A search for Alice Morad on the latest released census of the USA (1930) unfortunately has not been successful. A photo of Alice was taken during their visit with her in New York.
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Morad, Catherine Irene, Information Sheet, Aircraft Passenger, US Department of Justice, Immigration and Naturalization Servie. :
1. Aircraft: NC90902, Departing London, 8th December, 1946
arrving in New York, Date: Dec 9, 1946
2. Passenger:
MORAD, Catherine Irene, Age 26, Sex F, Citizen Country: England, Embarkation: London England
3: Destination: New York, New Gardens 15 83-96 117 Street. (c/o Mother, Mrs Carl Sparks)
4: Place of Birth: England, London, Race: English
5: Height: Ft: 5, in.: 4 ; complexion: fair; colour of hair: Auburn; eyes: Hazel
6: Married or Single: Single; Occupation: State Registered Nurse
7: Able to read: English
8: Immigration document: Transit Cert? 1485; issued at London England; Date of issue: 9/5/46
9: Last permanent residence: England, Sussex, Willingdon, Huggetts Lane, Field Place
10: Final Destination: Canada , British Columbia, East Kelowna, Dom Experimental Station
(c/o Farmer Spencer Dyson)
11: Going to join relative or friend in US: see #3
12: Whether in U.S. before: No
13: Purpose in coming to U.S.: visit mother on way to Canada , length of intended stay: Transit 2 weeks.
14: Whether has ticket to destination: Yes Amount of money shown: $950
15: Whether ever in prison or in institution for the insane: No
16: Whether ever excluded from admision to the United States or arrested and deported from the United States: No
17: Marks of Indentification: [blank]
separate box for the immigration official
Immigration list No. 2, line 17
Transportation: American Overseas Airlines, Inc.
Aliens passport will expire: 8/14/47
Head tax status: Exempt
Held for BSI: [blank]
Admitted under section: 3/3
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1911 census, St. George in the East, enumeration district 22. :
Claus, Henry, Head, Married, married 13 years, male, age 41, Grocer Shop Keeper, born Germany resident,
Claus, Kate, Wife, married, female, age 34, assisting in the business, born Gemany,
Yunster, Phili, Servant, single, male, age 30, Servant, born Germany,
Morrad, Fred, Boarder, single, male, age 36, occupation: Barker [Baker? jca], born Germany