OBITUARY: 1950, Preeceville, Saskatchewan paper.
The sudden death of James Andrew Anderson occurred on Monday, April 24 at his home in Preeceville following an illness of only two days.
Mr. Anderson was born in Peterborough County, Ontario on September 1st 1867. at the age of fourteen he moved with his parents to Grafton North Dakota. In 1892 he married Jennie Winch of Grafton. In 1902 they moved to the Yorkton district and in 1903 Mr. Anderson took up a homestead south-west of Preeceville and has resided in this district ever since, and for the past few years has resided in town. Deceased had been a member of the Masonic Order.
Funeral Services were held in the Preeceville Public Hall on Thursday April 27th, conducted by Rev. E. H. Shelvey. Interment took place in the Preeceville United Church Cemetery. The pallbearers were, John Hagemeister, H. Journey, J. Hemrick, W. Myden, B. Rudinski and Robert Duguid.
Besides his wife, Mr. Anderson leaves to mourn his loss, two sons, Vernon of Forget Sask., and Earl of Kelowna B.C., two daughters Minnie Robbins of Fort St. John B. C., and Ruby Hamilton of San Jose, Calif., all of whom were present at the funeral.
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James married Jennie Lauretta Winch 9,10,11,12,13, daughter of William Winch and Hannah Ellen Cox, on 7 Dec 1892 in Crystal, Pembina County, N. Dakota 8. (Jennie Lauretta Winch was born on 14 Aug 1876 in Burr Oak, Winneshiek Cty., Iowa 14,15, died on 27 Dec 1964 in Coquitlam, B.C. 16 and was buried in Preeceville, Sask.)
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Name: JENNIE ANDERSON
Event Date: 1964 12 26 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Age: 87
Gender: Female
Event Place: COQUITLAM
Reg. Number: 1964-09-016718
B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13270
GSU Microfilm Number: 2033723
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Reference Number:3
Their children were:
i. Minnie Zialia Anderson (born 14 Dec 1893 in Walsh County, N. Dakota - Died 6 Mar 1976 in Pouce Coupe, B.C. Canada)
ii. Ruby Eudora Anderson (born 5 Apr 1895 in Walsh Cty., N. Dakota, USA -)
iii. Vernon Lea Anderson (born 7 Nov 1897 in Walsh Cty., N. Dakota, USA - Died 26 Dec 1982)
iv. Earl Clinton Anderson (born 19 Jan 1899 in Nash, Walsh County, N. Dakota - Died 9 Jun 1986 in Kelowna, B.C.)
Second Generation 1851 Census, S. Monaghan, Ontario, National Archives of Canada, film C-11740, page 27
Duncan Anderson, farmer, b Canada, age 24, Presbyterian
Ann Anderson, b. Canada, age 22
Lilley Rutherford, age 16, Jane Rutherford, age 1
on 600 acres of land, 1 storey log house.
(note , this Jane Rutherford, age 1 next birthday very likely is the baby Jane Anderson and is not necessarily the daughter of Lilley Rutherford.. note by jca as suggested by Pam Wiedmann)
("A baby, Ann Jane, was born to Ann Jane (Rutherford) and Duncan Anderson in 1850" , note by Pam Wiedmann, of Phoenix, Arizona, Feb 20, 2001.)
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1861 Census, S. Monaghan, Ontario, National Archives of Canada, film C-1055, page 12
Duncan Anderson, farmer, b. Ireland (wrong.. jca), Free Church, age 34
Ann Anderson, b. Canada, Free Church, age 30
Jane b. Canada age 10, William age 9, Richard age 7, Cathrine age 6, Alexander age 4, John age 2
( note Free Church is Presbyterian)
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1871 Census, S. Monaghan, Ontario, National Archives of Canada, film # C9986, page 20
Duncan Anderson, farmer, b. Ontario, Scottish, Presbyterian, age 47
Ann Anderson, B. Ontario, Scottish, age 44
Jane age 20, William age 18, Richard age 16, Cathrine age 13, Alexander age 12, John age 11, James age 3, Joseph age 1.
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Notes: extracted from "A Family Tree of Some Of The Descendants of Alexander Anderson and Catherine Kennedy Being the Generations of Duncan R. Anderson and his Wife Ann" by Hazel Anderson of Toronto, Ontario, Canada dated 1976, and referring to the family of Duncan R. Anderson and Ann Jane Rutherford.. "The above names may not be in the correct order of age in some cases but I believe that the first one, WILLIAM, was the eldest. Also, I have been informed that he was the first one to leave Ontario for Dakota, and the others followed, with the exception of Ann Jane, who was the only one who remained in Ontario. " note by Hazel Anderson, 1976.
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OBITUARY: Duncan R. Anderson, 1905, Grafton, North Dakota,
Died
Duncan Anderson, another of Walsh county's pioneer citizens, passed away on Friday, Jan 13, aged 83 years. Death was caused from a cold which settled on his lungs. Deceased came to Walsh county in the spring of 1880, and filed on land two miles west of what is now Nash. All these years he has made that place his home. He was a good citizen and neighbor and his death is mourned by a large circle of friends. He leaves six sons and one daughter. The funeral was held on Monday, Jan 16, at the farm house.
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BIOGRAPHY: Walsh Heritage, Walsh County, North Dakota, page 355
Duncan Anderson
Duncan Anderson and his wife, Ann Jane Rutherford, were married in Ontario. They immigrated to Dakota Territory some time before 1880 and settled on Sections 23 and 26 in Glenwood Township. They were the parents of eight children: Jane, William, Richard, Catherine, Alexander, John, James and Joseph Richard. Jane and Catherine remained in Canada.
Duncan was born Feb 5, 1822, in Canada and died Jan 13, 1905, at his home. He is buried in Grafton City Cemetery next to his wife Ann. She was born in 1829 and died Feb 27, 1903. His son, Joseph, lived across the road from him and took care of him in his later years. Duncan and Ann were Presbyterians and Duncan's occupation was farming. Dick, John, and Alexander lived on adjoining farms. Submitted by Allen Anderson.
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Duncan married Ann Jane Rutherford 4,19,20,32,33,34, daughter of Richard Rutherford and Jane Nichol, on 13 Dec 1851 in S. Monaghan, Ontario, Canada. (Ann Jane Rutherford was born about 1829 in Ontario, Canada 18,35 and died on 27 Feb 1903 in Nash, Walsh Cty., N. Dakota, USA 31,36.)
Reference Number:5
Their children were:
i. Ann Jane Anderson (born Abt 1850 in Canada - Died Oct 1880 in Warsaw, Ontario, Canada)
ii. William Richard Anderson (born 17 Aug 1852 in Peterborough, Ontario - Died Abt 1933 in Hoople, North Dakota)
iii. Richard Rutherford Anderson (born Abt 1855 - , died in Seattle, WA)
iv. Catherine Anderson (born 12 Feb 1856 in Smith Twp, Ontario, Canada - Died 30 Sep 1925 in Laura, Saskatchewan)
v. Alexander Anderson (born Jan 1858 - Died 10 Nov 1934 in Carman, Manitoba Age 76)
vi. John Anderson (born 12 Sep 1860 - Died 22 Apr 1944 in Plenty, Saskatchewan)
1 vii. James Andrew Anderson (born 1 Sep 1867 in Peterborough Cty, Ontario - Died 24 Apr 1950 in Preeceville, Sask.)
viii. Joseph Duncan Anderson (born 4 Feb 1869 in W. Peterborough, Peterborough, Ontario, Canada - Died 8 May 1921 , buried in Hoople, North Dakota)
1903 Walsh County Record, Grafton, N. Dakota
Death of Mrs. Annie Anderson
Mrs. Annie Anderson, beloved wife of Duncan Anderson, passed away last Friday, Feb 27, at the family residence west of Nash, aged 77 years. Death resulted from paralysis. Mrs. Anderson was the mother of a large family, an excellent woman whose good works live after her. The funeral was held on Monday and the remains were deposited in the Grafton cemetery.
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Ann married Duncan Richard Anderson 4,17,18,19,20,21,22,23, son of Alexander Anderson and Catherine Kennedy, on 13 Dec 1851 in S. Monaghan, Ontario, Canada. (Duncan Richard Anderson was born on 5 Feb 1824 in Beckwith Twp, Ontario 18,24,25,26,27,28, christened on 27 Feb 1825, died on 13 Jan 1905 in Nash Twp., Walsh Cty., ND, USA 18,26,29,30 and was buried on 16 Jan 1905 in Nash, Walsh County, N. Dakota, USA 31.)
Third Generation Ontario Archives, Land Records Office
Alexander Anderson, Beckwith twp, Ontario, index microfiche 929.3713 ARC , sheet #1
East 1/2 Lot 22, concession 8, issue date 1828/04/02
Archival reference 01 series C13, Vol 096, page 114
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Ontario Archives, Land Records Office
Alexander Anderson, Monaghan, Ontario, index microfiche 929.3713 ARC, sheet #1
Lot 2, concession 2, issue date 1833/11/06
Archival reference 01 series C1113, Vol 001, page 031
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1848 census, South Monaghan, Ontario. Canada National Archives film # M-5911, page 9, line 24
Alexander Anderson, lot 2, concession 2, proprietor, farmer, 8 residents total, religion all Presbyterians, natives of Scotland 2, natives of Canada 6.
Males single 14<16=2, 18<21=2, 21<30=2, married 40<60=2
Females , single 14<45=0, married 45 and upwards=2 . (note these add up to 10 in total, not 8 ) jca
(it is likely that there was only 1 male and 1 female that was over 40 and less than 60) jca
200 acres of land including 120 acres of wooded land, 60 acres of tilled land and 20 acres of pasture.
15 cattle, 4 horses, 22 sheep, and 10 hogs, also produces 50 pounds of maple sugar.
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1850 census, South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada National Archives film # M-5915, page 19, line 5
lot 2, concession 2, Alexander Anderson, farmer, 8 residents total, religion all Presbyterians,
no young children, persons native of Scotland=3, persons native of Canada=4.
Males, single 14<18=1, 18<21=1, 21<30=1, married 40<60=1
Females , single 14<30=2, married 40<60=1
200 acres of land.
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1851 census, South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada Archives film # C11740, page 17
Alexander age 58 next birthday, (so born abt. 1793? jca),
Isabella age 50 next birthday. (note: second wife for Alexander Anderson ..jca)
John Anderson, labourer, age 28
Margret Anderson, age 25
Alexander Anderson, age 23
Margaret Kinghorne, age 20
Daniel Anderson, b. Canada, age 17
1 story frame house
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1861 census, South Monaghan, Ontario, National Archives of Canada film # C1055, page 2
Alexander Anderson, farmer, b. Scotland, age 65, Isabella Anderson, born Scotland, age 64
Alexander, b. Canada, age 22, Sophia Anderson, born Canada, age 24, Elizabeth, age 2, Thomas C. age 1. living in a 1 1/2 story frame house
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1871 census,, so far unable to locate Alexander and Isabella Anderson
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1881 census, South Monaghan, Ontario, National Archives of Canada film # C13241, page 35
Alexander Anderson, b. Scotland, age 96, Jisbell? (spelling?) Anderson, b. Scotland, age 86 both married
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Note by James C. Anderson. Could it be that Alexander wasn't as old as he presented himself, or not as old as presented by Miss Margaret Emberson. judging by his age on the 1851 census (58) he should have only been age 88 in the 1881 census.. How did he get to be 96??.. jca
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The following history of the Anderson family was written to her nieces July 13, 1953 by Miss Margaret Emberson, who was a daughter of Mr. and Mrs. William Emberson, of South Monaghan, Ontario. Mrs William Emberson was formerly Margaret Anderson, b. 1828, daughter of Alexander Anderson and Catherine Kennedy. WESTON, July 13, 1953
( with additional notes by Miss Hazel Anderson of Toronto , Ontario, Canada)
"Since my nieces have asked me to write what I can remember and what I have heard from my parents and people who were old when I was young ( I am now in my 87th year) I shall try to comply with their wishes. Grandfather (Alexander) Anderson and wife, Katherine Kennedy, our mother's father was a shepherd in the Highlands of Scotland and came to Canada about 1830 ( as well I as I can estimate) and settled in Lanark County. There must have been forest all around for one story told me about an experience which our Grandmother had was, one day when walking with two of her children, two little bear cubs trotted along in the path ahead of her. Of course she was frightened when the mother bear came out and followed behind her, but she quietly kept on her way and the little cubs turned off into a side path, so they were safe for the time.
One day when Grandfather was chopping down a tree, he was struck by a limb and his leg was broken or injured so that he could not walk, and his wife carried him on her back to the house.. I understand from report that it was more than her slight frame could bear and she died not long after.. Their family were John, Duncan, Christiana, Margaret, Alexander and Daniel.. Christie was eleven and Margaret , our mother eight years with Alex and Dan younger. His brother-in-law advised him to move farther west to more fertile fields, so somehow he came to Port or Cobourg and filed a claim on the farm where Uncle Alex lived until he died.. George lives there still.
There is a part of the history which I do not know. that is about his wife's death, if in Lanark or after coming to Monaghan. Aunt Christie told me how she and her brother Duncan used to do the family wash at the creek flowing east from the house. She said they laid the clothes on a flat rock and Duncan pounded them with a mallet to get them clean. I do not know how long it was before Grandfather met and married Mrs. Kinghorn, a widow with three children; two boys, one a stepson of 11 or 12 years; a girl, Margaret, 5 years, and Jimmie 1 or 2 years old. Her husband, John Kinghorn, was a clever man who could make small pretty trinkets. I believe he was a cabinet maker. They arrived in Montreal where the cholera was raging and was stricken and died. Mrs. K. somehow got to Port Hope and got in touch with her brother, Nichol Dodds, who farmed 5 or 6 miles north of Port Hope in Hope Township.. I never heard how the lone widow with her little flock came in contact with our widower Grandpa, but such was the case. She lived and worked in the home of James Rutherford before the second marriage. They lived on boiled peas and a dark coarse bread of some sort. There was only one white loaf made for the man of the house. Little Margaret Kinghorn did not thrive on this diet and a kind man, Richard Rutherford, brother to James took her into his home, where she fared better as to food. but there were six children. One of them, Mary, a fat chubby baby , was Margaret's special charge and was tied with a scarf on the back of the frail little girl to get an airing and sunbath. The Rutherfords were faithful, devout Presbyterians who walked to church at Centreville from their home on the farm that later Brother James and Rebecca ( who was Mary's daughter) lives on.
One Sunday while the people went to church, Margaret was told to make a pot of soup from a sheep's head, but Mrs. Rutherford neglected to tell her how to prepare it, and the poor little girl (about 11 years) did not know she should have split it open with an axe or something as to remove brains and to cleanse it properly.. She got an undeserved scolding from the sharp tongued Jenny R. which was always remembered. That was not very good soup. Years after, Margaret was our dear stepmother, who cared for and loved us as her own.. When Grandfather married, Christie went to work for Mr. and Mrs. Wat Riddell, whose family consisted of twins, Robert and Jenny and John, whom you will remember, Dorothy, as our Sunday School Superintendent.
Aunt Christie told me how she managed to keep the twins out of mischief and get on with the work by placing them on the floor and putting a heavy iron on their skirts at the back. There were no play pens in those days. These folks lived in a log house, but later built a fine one of stone where Mr. and Mrs. Collins lived, which you will remember.
The girls of those days attended a school taught by Mrs. Kerr ( by the way an ancestress of Miss Annie) where they learned the rudiments of education and also sewing and handicrafts. They spun wool for stockings, blankets and clothing. That was when the girls wore homespun dresses and were quite clever at dyeing the yarn into pretty colours. I wore a blue and red one with small checks. It was warm but scratchy. The men and boys had shirts and drawers made too. The underwear was either white or grey.
I remember Grandfather as a kindly old man who used to take John and me on his knee together and sing his old songs in the quaint Scotch dialect, such as, "O a' the airts the wind can blow, I dearly loe the West. For there the bonnie lassie lives, the lass I love best." He could be ruthless when he was much annoyed; for instance once in the early days some little pigs belonging to his neighbours would get into his grain field. He tried to stop them, but they always found a new place to get in. So one day in a rage, he caught them one by one, beat their heads on the stone fence and threw them over on their own side. Such a thing was rare, however, for he was usually kind in his treatment of animals.
At Christmas, brother Alex would drive to Centreville 5 1/2 miles to bring him and Grandma for the day. Uncle William and Aunt Betty Emberson too were always guests on that occasion as long as they lived. Uncle was the first of the group to go in the winter of 1874. After his death I used to stay and sleep with Aunt Betty to keep her company. One of my brothers or father would escort me to her house in the evening after supper and in the morning when one or other of them went down to feed her cow and pig, I went home again. That winter I did not attend school very regularly as the snow was deep. So John and I spent our days at home.
Grandmother was the next to go at 87 years, then in 1881, Auntie died. Grandfather lived another year was almost 100. The last one of that generation was Mrs. Wright, a sweet patient old lady, Aunt Betty's sister who lived in a little log house across the pasture at north east end of the pond. About the time of Auntie's death, she fell and dislocated her hip, but her friends did not realize this and for 2 or 3 weeks she lay in bed without the doctor, who said the cup of the joint had filled with jelly and he could not the put the joint back in place. She lived 4 years, a helpless invalid, cared for by her two daughters, Grace and Mrs. Montgomery. She was a beautiful old woman whose face was framed in a white cap with frills around it, kept immaculate and spotless, really angelic in her patience and suffering. While she was able to be about her work, she used to keep a watchful eye over her grandchildren, the Montgomery children, and us when we would go near the old house in the pasture field where an open well just covered with boards afforded her household with water. She had queer Irish superstitions and used to frighten us youngsters away from the vicinity of the well by saying there was an old man in the old house. She believed in ghosts and fairies and once when her husband in Ireland was walking home on a dark night, the fairies caught him and knocked him down when he was getting over the stile. I was so impressed by these tales I told father, who assured me they were just myths of Mrs. Wright's fancy. As I have stated she was the last of the old people with whom we were closely associated in our childhood and the memories of them are dear to me, for it brings back the day when I roamed barefooted through the green fields and woods with my brothers Robert and John.
This is the record of the Andersons.
Alexander and Katherine Kennedy- first wife.
Alexander and Mrs. Kinghorne- nee Isabella Dodds- second wife.
Eldest son- John and wife Margaret Gillanders and family-
John and Margaret lived at Paudash Lake later.
Isabella (Mrs. A. Trotter)
Lauchlin- Duncan- Donald- John.
Note- There were two others in the above family that have not been noted here. They were Alexander, the eldest who was drowned, and William, the youngest, ( this note is by Hazel Anderson)
Second son- Duncan and wife Ann Rutherford- went to Dakota.
William, Dick- Jane- Katie-- Alex-- Jack- Jimmy- Joseph R.
Third son- Alex and wife Sophie Tait.
Elizabeth- Tom- Alf-. -Alex- Carrie- Sophie- Fred- George- Ernest- (lives near R. Finlay)
(George lives on the old homestead)
Daniel and Ann Jane Moncrief.
Alex- Dave- Dan- William- John- Jim- Isabella (Mrs Hamilton)- Katie- (Mrs J. Quinn)
NOTE- there were three others not noted here- They were Jane-, Margaret ( Mrs Moffat) and Christiana
(this note is by Hazel Anderson)
Christie and Joseph Dawson-
Alex- Jack- Jim- Joe- Ed- Katie- (Waterman) Martha-(Beebe)
Kate's family.. Ethel- John- Janet- Joe- Helen- Kathleen
Martha's family.. 3 sons- Dawson- George- Harold
Gerald is the only living son of Alfred A.
George has 2 daughters- Jessie (Mrs R. Robinson) and Jean (Mrs W. Varcoe), He has one son, Charles."
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NOTE- My records show that George Cameron Anderson had also an daughter Olive, but not a son Charles.. Charles was the son of Edmund Ernest Anderson. (note by Hazel Anderson)
FINAL NOTE BY HAZEL ANDERSON
Regarding the place of Catherine Kennedy Anderson's death, we have some support for the theory that it was in South Monaghan after their removal from Beckwith Township. We base this on the search in the Archives in Toronto which gives the information that the youngest son, Daniel was born in South Monaghan, and also the fact that Catherines's name appears on the tombstone in Centreville Cemetery. (S. Monaghan)
Notes: as per A Family History Of Some Of The Descendents Of Alexander Anderson and Catherine Kennedy by Hazel Anderson of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (1976)
(Regarding the family of Alexander Anderson and Catherine Kennedy:)
"All of the above family from John to Daniel were born in Beckwith Twp, Ont. with the possible exception of Daniel, who may have been born in South Monaghan after the family moved up there from Beckwith Twp. The parents were apparently born in Scotland. They (the Parents) came out here in the early 1820's and settled first in Beckwith and then were persuaded by a brother of Catherine Kennedy's to come up to S. Monaghan where he had some better farmingland. In Beckwith they had become acquainted with several other famlies who had come from England and perhaps Ireland and Scotland. Some of their names were Gillanders, Rutherfords, Dawsons and Embersons. These neighbours decided to come up to S. Monaghan with the Andersons and in course of time, marriages took place between these families. "
These are the baptismal dates for some of the above family members:
John May 11-1823
Duncan Feb 27-1825
Margaret May 18-1829
Alexander Nov. 7-1830
Note- Baptismal records in the Genealogical Library in Salt Lake City show an ALEXANDER ANDERSON, who was the eldest son of ALEXANDER ANDERSON and HELEN ROBISON who was baptized on Dec. 30- 1792. We presume this was our ALEXANDER (1) at the top of this page, but have no conclusive proof.. The details of this family appear on another page herewith."
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Extracts from the letter from Hazel Anderson to James C. Anderson July 31, 1976
regarding the Anderson monument at the cemetery in S. Monaghan Ontario.
"Gerald has given me the following details from said monument;
North side of monument- Margaret, daughter of Alexander Jr. age 5 years. died July 14, 1875
East side- Alexander died Mar 17-1882 age 97 yrs. Perthshire
Catherine Kennedy died June 4- 1838- age 44 yrs.
Isabella, died May 25-1881- age 87 yrs
South side- Sophie Tait -wife of Alexander died Jan 28- 1902 age 67 yrs
Alexander, died July 9, 1910- aged 79"
"P.S. With regard to Duncan and Ann's removal from S. Monagan to N. Dakota, I have been informed that their eldest son, William went there first, and eventually the rest of the family followed, with one exception. A daughter Ann Jane, who remained in Ontario. Some of the family later moved back to Canada and settled in Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Alex (1) and Catherine came from Crieff, Scotland"
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Note: by James Clinton Anderson of Kelowna B.C. Nov 10, 2000
In the text of the letter included in these notes written by Margaret Emberson she says:
"Grandmother was the next to go at 87 years, then in 1881, Auntie died. (This would have been Christiana Anderson ), Grandfather lived another year was almost 100."
"The calculated birth date from Alexander Anderson's cemetery memorial.. died March 17, 1882 ..age 97 years would be 1785 but this does not agree with the documented age of Alexander on either the 1848, 1850 or 1851 census from S. Monaghan, Ontario which would indicate a birth date of about 1792. note by jca.. February 17, 2001.
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Dear cousins,
The oldest proven ancestors carrying the Anderson name for our little band of Andersons was Alexander Anderson. He married Cathrine Kennedy in 1820 in Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland.
(ref LDS IGI files )
Within two years of his marriage they can be found in Ontario, Canada, where hopefully they could enjoy better conditions to start raising their young family.
Some serious attempts have been made to trace our Alexander and Cathrine to families in Perthshire, Scotland. A trip was made to Scotland in 1979 by cousin Alistair J. Anderson of Calgary, Alberta to further research the family of Alexander Anderson and Helen (or Elin ) Robison. They did have a son Alexander that was baptized on Dec 30, 1792 in Crieff, Perthshire. ( note Crieff is a larger town just a seven miles east of the small town of Comrie)
See a map of the towns of Perthshire with the following link to the www.
http://www.scottish-towns.co.uk/perthshire/
Other siblings of Alexander Anderson and Helen ( Elin) Robison or Robertson were John, Christian, Margaret, Robert, Elizabeth, Helen and Duncan.
This family had been reported earlier by cousin Allan Anderson of Orem, Utah.
In a letter to myself around 1980 an elderly cousin of ours Miss Hazel Anderson of Toronto stated that Alexander Anderson and wife Catherine came from Crieff, Scotland.. My father (Earl C. Anderson) also told me that it was handed down from previous generations that our family had come from Crieff in Scotland..
The evidence of our Alexander being born in 1785 plus or minus 1 year, however is quite strong, as indicated both on the cemetery monument in S. Monaghan, Ontario which reads "Alexander Anderson , died 17 March, 1882, age 97, Perthshire" and also the story written in 1953 by Miss Margaret Emberson which states that "grandfather died 1882 was almost 100"
However, the 1851 census record for South Monaghan , page 16 , says "Alexander Anderson, age 58".
This would indicate a birth date of about 1792. The census records for 1848 and 1850 also indicate that Alexander Anderson was born after 1789.
I hope that further research can positively identify either this family or another one as our definite ancestors from Crieff or Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland.
James Anderson
Dec 8, 2000
Kelowna , B.C.
jimander@home.com
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Comrie, Perthshire - A small summer resort located on the River Earn, in Strathearn, near Loch Earn, at the eastern end of which lays St. Fillan's. The White Church of Comrie dates from 1805, the steeple being by John Stewart. To the north of Comrie is Glen Lednock, with its falls, and to the south is Glen Artney, the two glens facing each other across the Highland "fault," which has given rise at various times, notably in 1839, to minor earthquake shocks in this district. Comrie is composed of three distinct villages, Comrie proper on the north bank of the River Earn, The Ross at the junction of the Rivers Earn and Ruchill, and Dalginross to the south of the River Earn. An excellent book "About Comrie" by C. Gordon Booth has recently been published which describes this village.
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Dear cousins,
I believe that we now have enough information to better establish the date
of birth of Alexander Anderson, our oldest confirmed Anderson progenitor.
The calculated date of birth from all the various sources obtained so far
are as follows:
1: S. Monaghan cemetery monument: died Mar 17, 1882, age 97 yrs =1785
2 Letter from Miss Margaret Emberson died "allmost 100" =perhaps 1785
3: 1881 census age 96 =1785
3 1871 census not yet found
4: 1861 census age 64 at next birthday =1796
5 1851 census age 58 at next birthday =1792
6 1850 census age less than 60 =after 1791
7 1848 census age less than 60 =after 1789
It is my considered opinion that the ages that are recorded earlier in a person's life are likely to be more accurate than the the calculated ages that are made in ones advanced years. The first three census takings (1848, 1850 and 1851) at least are consistant with each other with the later census takings showing a high variance in both directions from the earlier ones. Note that from 1851 to 1881 , Alexander has somehow aged 38 years. This is in spite of the 1851 census being taken late and not completing until 1852. Perhaps in a man's later life there is a tendency to unconsciously exaggerate one's age and therefore wisdom.. (Personally , I try to use this tactic as well, unfortunately without much success). The age inscribed on the cemetery monument in S. Monaghan would have been obtained from Alexander personally in the last few years of his life, without benefit of any recorded information such as a birth certificate or other documentation that is taken for granted today, and as such, should not be considered to be any more accurate than the age that he gave at the 1881 census.
In conclusion, unless further evidence comes to light I believe that a reasonable birth date for Alexander Anderson, died March 17, 1882 in S. Monaghan, Ontario, would be about 1792, not 1785.
your cousin,
James C. Anderson.
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A search through the Old Parochial Register from Comrie for this time period (LDS film # 1040075) so far reveals only the marriage record of Alexander Anderson and Cathrine Kennedy on 13 December, 1820.
No children by this marriage have yet been found in Scotland, hinting that the couple have left the country.
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Alexander married Catherine Kennedy 18,45,46, daughter of John Kennedy and Christian Carmichael, on 13 Dec 1820 in Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland 44. (Catherine Kennedy was born in 1794 in Scotland 18,46,47, christened on 27 Jan 1794 in Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland, died on 4 Jun 1838 in Ontario, Age 44 18,48 and was buried in 1838 in Centreville, South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada.)
Reference Number:A1
Their children were:
i. John Anderson (born 23 Apr 1822 in Beckwith Twp, Ontario - Died 18 Jun 1899 in Cardiff Twp, Ontario)
2 ii. Duncan Richard Anderson (born 5 Feb 1824 in Beckwith Twp, Ontario - Died 13 Jan 1905 in Nash Twp., Walsh Cty., ND, USA)
iii. Christiana Anderson (born 14 Dec 1826 in Beckwith Twp, Ontario - Died 25 Dec 1892 in South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada)
iv. Margaret Anderson (born 14 Feb 1828 in Beckwith, Ontario - Died 2 Jun 1869 in South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada)
v. Alexander Anderson (born 16 Aug 1830 in Beckwith Twp, Ontario - Died 9 Jul 1910 in At Age 79)
vi. Daniel Anderson (born 8 Aug 1832 in South Monaghan, Ontario - Died 13 Aug 1921 in Smith Twp, Ontario)
Alexander next married Isabella Dods 18, daughter of James Dods and Margaret Johnston, on 9 Aug 1839 in Caven Twp, Durham Co., Ontario 37. (Isabella Dods was born on 3 Jan 1794 in Eccles, Berwick, Scotland 49,50,51, christened on 18 Feb 1794 in Eccles, Berwick, Scotland, died on 25 May 1881 in South Monaghan, Ontario 52 and was buried in Centreville, South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada.)
1851 census , Canadian Archives film # C11740, South Monaghan, Ontario, page 17
Alexander Anderson age 58, Isabella age 50, John Anderson age 28, Margret Anderson age 25?, Alexander Anderson age 23, Margaret Kinghorne age 20, Daniel Anderson age 17
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maiden name Dodds, earlier married to John Kinghorne.. when she married Alexander Anderson she was then Mrs. Isabella Kinghorne.. as per History of Alexander Anderson and Catherine Kennedy by Margaret Emberson. written in 1953.
extract from :The following history of the Anderson family was written to her nieces July 13, 1953 by Miss Margaret Emberson, who was a daughter of Mr. and Mrs. William Emberson, of South Monaghan, Ontario. Mrs William Emberson was formerly Miss Margaret Anderson, daughter of Alexander Anderson and Catherine Kennedy Anderson. WESTON, July 13, 1953
" I do not know how long it was before Grandfather met and married Mrs. Kinghorn, a widow with three children; two boys, one a stepson of 11 or 12 years; a girl, Margaret, 5 years, and Jimmie 1 or 2 years old. "
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Hi Jim,
Your file looks good. I do have something for you to add to though.
Alexander Anderson married Isabella (Dodds) Kinghorne Aug 9, 1839 in
Cavan Twp, Durham Co, Ontario although it could have been South Monaghan
Twp if they were married at home and not in the church.
June 53
The cemetery monument in South Monaghan, Ontario indicates:
"Catherine Kennedy died June 4, 1838, age 44 yrs.."
This calculates to a birth date of 1794. A search in the Scottish Church records on compact disk indicates only one likely christening of a Catharine Kennedy, christened 27 Jan, 1794 in Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland to parents John Kennedy and Christian Carmichael.
Finding Helen Kennedy, the wife of William Anderson on the adjacent property to Alexander Anderson in 1851 and 1861 with seven year old George Kennedy visiting provides the important clue to finding the correct Kennedy family back in Scotland. The calculated age of Helen , wife of William Anderson is 1851 census less 54 years equals born in 1797.
The Scottish Church records do indeed have a Helen Kennedy, christened 6 Sept, 1797 in Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland to the same parents as Catherine Kennedy, that being John Kennedy and Christian Carmichael. The entire family of this couple being Duncan, Margaret, Donald, Catharine, Christian, Helen and Elizabeth.
Note the duplication of many of the names of the parents and siblings of this family into the family of Alexander Anderson and wife Catharine :
John Anderson, Christiana Anderson, Duncan Anderson, Margaret Anderson,
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Alexr. ANDERSON Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Cathrine KENNEDY
Marriage: 13 Dec 1820
Comrie, Perth, Scotland
Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type
M113415 1820-1855 1040075 Film 6901891 Film
This marriage record from the LDS IGI files is the ONLY marriage record found on the IGI files (International Genealogical Index) between an Alexander Anderson and a Catherine or Cathrine Kennedy
in the entire British Isles within +/- 20 years of 1820.
Comrie is a village 7 miles west of Crieff , Perthshire, Scotland.
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Also, Hazel Anderson stated that Catherine had a sister Helen or Elen married to a William Anderson. The 1851 census records for South Monaghan shows William and Elen right next door to our Alexander Anderson and the age of Elen (age 54) fits perfectly for a birthdate of 1797.
The 1861 census for William and Elen still in South Monaghan has the pleasant surprise of seven year old GEORGE KENNEDY visiting during the census taking which very conveniently ties William Anderson and his wife Elen into the Kennedy family.
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Catherine married Alexander Anderson 18,37,38,39, son of Alexander Anderson and Helen Robertson, on 13 Dec 1820 in Comrie, Perthshire, Scotland 44. (Alexander Anderson was born on 30 Dec 1792 in Crieff, Perthshire, Scotland 18,40,41,42, died on 17 Mar 1882 in South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada 18,43 and was buried in Centreville, South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada.)
LDS IGI record, Marriage.
Richard Rutherford, marriage to Jane Nichol, 26 April, 1828,
Falstone, Northumberland, England
source: Batch number M002482, microfilm # 0252579
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1851 Census, S. Monaghan, Ontario, National Archives of Canada, film # C-11740, page 35
Richard Rutherford, farmer, b. England, age 59
Jane Rutherford, b. Scotland, age 49
Walter Rutherford, b. Canada, age 23
William age 20, Margret age 19, Lilley age 17, Mary age 16,
Jane age 13, John age 11, James age 9, Elizabeth age 5 and
Agnes Nichol, born England, age 78, widow. (a family member)
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Genealogical History of the Rutherford Family. page 566 and page 567, book stored at LDS at Salt Lake City.
5607 RICHARD RUTHERFORD, b. in Scotland; bur. at Bailieboro, South Monaghan, Northumberland County, Ontario, Canada.
Jane Nichol. d. in 1856; bur. at Bailieboro, South Monaghan; m. Richard Rutherford
5608 Walter Rutherford, m. Margaret Bird
5609 James Rutherford
5610 Ann Rutherford, m. Duncan Anderson
5611 Margaret Rutherford
5612 Lille Rutherford, m. James Stewart
5613 Jane Rutherford
5614 Bessie Rutherford , m. James Perrin
5615 Mary Rutherford, m. Joseph Wood
5616 William Rutherford, d. Nov. 1859
5617 John B. Rutherford, b. 12 June 1840; d. 30 Nov. 1922
Richard Rutherford immigrated to Canada with two brothers, Walter and James, from the Cheviot Hills district of Scotland. They were among the first to settle in Northumberland County, Ontario, and the date of their immigration was set at 1795. (ref letter written by Silas J. Rutherford, no. 5626; 10 Dec. 1971, Minneapolis, MI.)
5616 (5607) William Rutherford (Richard-1), b. in South Monaghan, Northumberland County, Ontario; d. in November 1859, Saskatoon, Canada. Sarah Smithson, m. William Rutherford, 28 September 1858 in Canada.
William Rutherford died shortly after he married and left at least one child. A grandaughter , Mrs Don Davidson, was living in Ottawa in 1972 (ref Family Survey Sheet, Silas J. Rutherford, no 5626; 13 Apr 1972, Minneopolis, MI)
(note by Pam Wiedmann of Phoenix, Arizona, Feb 20, 2001 to James C. Anderson.
"Regarding 5616 (5607):
This information is NOT correct. Richard's son, William, was born in
1832 and died in 1904. He married Margaret Smithson in 1858. They did,
however, have a daughter named Sarah among their nine children. Their son,
William Smithson Rutherford is the father of the Margaret Davidson who lived
in Ottawa. I received lengthy letters from Margaret in the late 80's before
she passed away. She was a lovely lady, and wrote at length about the
Rutherford history in the South Monaghan area. Her information and much of
the documented evidence that she provided me, helped to dispel many of the
errors that Silas had in his information. He did the best he could, I'm
sure, but it was quite a mess to untangle a lot of things. ")
5617 (5607) John B. Rutherford (Richard-1), b 12 July 1840, South Monaghan, Northumberland County, Ontario, Canada; d. 30 November 1922; bur. in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Catherine Barnard, dau. of John Bernard, b. 4 May 1840; m. John B. Rutherford, 24 September 1862, South Monaghan, Ontario.
5618 Lorenzo John Rutherford, b. 1 July 1863; d. 26 Sept 1926
5619 Lilley Sarah Rutherford, b 12 June 1865
5620 Leon Bernard Rutherford, b. 9 Sept. 1868; d. 19 Mar. 1905
5621 Lee Morgan Rutherford, b. 22 Jan 1871; d. 7 May 1905
5622 Asa William Rutherford, b. 30 Mar. 1873; d. Jan 1925
5623 Pearl Catherine Rutherford, b. 5 Feb. 1875; d. 1 Mar. 1905
5624 Hayes Burton Rutherford, b. 15 May 1877; d. 24 July 1897
5625 Justin Walter Rutherford, b 18 Apr. 1879; d. 9 Mar 1901
John B. Rutherford moved from South Monaghan, Ontario to Michigan about 1864. He was settled in Saginaw, Michigan, by June 1865 and remained in Saginaw until at least 1880. Six of his children died in Minneopolis, Minnesota. The death of Hayes occurred in Minneapolis 24 July, 1897.
5618 (5617) Lorenzo John Richard Rutherford, b 1 July 1863, South Monaghan, Ontario; d. 26 September 1926; bur. in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Nellie B. Banker, dau of Silas R. Banker (1833-1919) and Pheebe McKillip, b. 8 August 1868, Keesville, New York; d. 27 July 1971; bur. in Minneapolis, Minnesota; m. Lorenzo John Richard Rutherford, 25 November 1890; bur. in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
5626 Silas John Rutherford, b. 5 Feb 1893
5627 Richard Hall Rutherford, b. 30 June 1896; d. Sept 1918
5628 Lorenzo Rutherford, b. 1 June 1907; d. July 1910
Lorenzo John Richard Rutherford made his home in Minneapolis, Minnesota, His son, Silas, contributed the information on this family.
5620 (5617) Leon Bernard Rutherford, b. 9 September 1868, Saginaw, Michigan; d. 19 March 1905, Minneapolis, Minnesota. Matie Readman, m. Leon Bernard Rutherford, 31 October 1893.
5629 Virginia Rutherford
5622 (5617) Asa William Rutherford, b. 30 March 1873, Saginaw, Michigan; d. in January 1925; bur. at Lake Minnetonka, Minnesota. Jennie Thornhill, m. Asa William Rutherford, 15 August, 1900
5630 Asa Harold Rutherford
5631 Grace Rutherford
5626 (5618) Silas John Rutherford, b. 5 February, 1893, Minneapolis, Minnesota. Lola Berneice Roemer, dau. of Charles Q. Roemer (1867-1938) and Lola Elizabeth Stewart (1868-1946), b. 23 July 1894, Clintonville, Wisconsin; m. Silas John Rutherford, 17 June 1926, Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Silas John Rutherford was graduated from Minnesota College School of Law with a B.L. degree in 1920. He was owner and operator of Rutherford's Lawn and Garden Power Equipment Company in Minneapolis in 1972. He served in the Air Force during World War II. He is a member of the Episcopal Church, the Blue Lodge of the Masonic Lodge, and Scottish Rite and Zuhrah Temple of Shriners.
5630 (5622) Asa Harold Rutherford. Doris Marie Hagg, m. Asa Harold Rutherford, 12 March 1938, Fairfax, Minnesota.
5632 Karen Marie Rutherford
5633 Andrea Kathleen Rutherford.
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1. Property: 1851: 2 Storey Brick House, 300 Acres Land.
2. Religion: 1851: Presbyterian.
Richard married Jane Nichol 59,60, daughter of Nichol and Agnes, on 26 Apr 1828 in Falstone, Northumberland, England 58. (Jane Nichol was born about 1801 in Scotland 61, died in 1856 in South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada and was buried in 1856 in Bailieboro, South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada 56.)
Reference Number:C1
Their children were:
i. Walter Rutherford (born Abt 1828 in Canada -)
3 ii. Ann Jane Rutherford (born Abt 1829 in Ontario, Canada - Died 27 Feb 1903 in Nash, Walsh Cty., N. Dakota, USA)
iii. William Rutherford (born 1832 in South Monaghan, Northumberland County, Ontario - Died 1904)
iv. Margaret Rutherford (born Abt 1831 -)
v. Lilley Rutherford (born Abt 1834 -)
vi. Mary Rutherford (born Abt 1834 -)
vii. Jane Rutherford (born Abt 1837 -)
viii. John B. Rutherford (born 12 Jun 1840 in S. Monaghan, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada - Died 30 Nov 1922 , buried in Minneapolis, Minn., USA)
ix. James Rutherford (born Jun 1842 in Ontario - Died 19 Apr 1913 in Grafton N. Dakota ?)
x. Elizabeth Rutherford (born Abt 1845 -)
Jane married Richard Rutherford 18,54,55, son of William Rutherford, on 26 Apr 1828 in Falstone, Northumberland, England 58. (Richard Rutherford was born about 1791 in England 56,57, died in South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada and was buried in Bailieboro, South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada 56.)
Fourth GenerationYou searched for: Anderson, Birth/Christening, 1772 - 1812, Perth, Scotland, British Isles
Father: Alexander Anderson
Mother: either Helen Robison or Helen Robertson
Exact Spelling: Off
Batch Number: C113424
Results: International Genealogical Index/British Isles (9 matches)
1. John ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 16 Sep 1781 Crieff, Perth, Scotland
2. William ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 18 Feb 1784 Crieff, Perth, Scotland
3. Christian ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 7 May 1786 Crieff, Perth, Scotland
4. Margaret ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 28 Dec 1788 Crieff, Perth, Scotland
5. Robert ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 2 Jan 1791 Crieff, Perth, Scotland
6. Alexander ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 30 Dec 1792 Crieff, Perth, Scotland
7. Elizabeth ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 18 May 1795 Crieff, Perth, Scotland
8. Helen ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: F Christening: 7 Jun 1796 Crieff, Perth, Scotland
9. Duncan ANDERSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Christening: 7 Jun 1799 Crieff, Perth, Scotland
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The above family seems to have the greatest likelyhood of being the source of our Alexander Anderson , b. abt 1792 according to the 1848, 1850, and 1851 census of S. Monaghan, Ontario, and bearing in mind that family tradition has it the Anderson family came from Crieff, Scotland, and also that a marriage took place between Anderson Anderson and Cathrine Kennedy seven miles to the west of Crieff in the village of Comrie on the 13th of December, 1820. notes by James C. Anderson, Feb 10, 2001
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LDS IGI Record Alexander ANDERSON Sex: M
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Elin ROBERTSON , Marriage: 5 Jun 1780 , Kenmore, Perth, Scotland
Source Information: Batch number M113604, film # 1040117
The above marriage record for Alexander Anderson and Elin Robertson certainly appears to be the correct record as no other similiar marriage records are apparent. Also, the date of 1780 fits very well with the christenings of the nine children in Crieff. note by jca
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Alexander married Helen Robertson on 5 Jun 1780 in Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland 62. (Helen Robertson was born about 1760.)
Their children were:
i. John Anderson (born 16 Sep 1781 -)
ii. William Anderson (born 18 Feb 1784 -)
iii. Christian Anderson (born 7 May 1786 -)
iv. Margaret Anderson (born 28 Dec 1788 -)
v. Robert Anderson (born 2 Jan 1791 -)
4 vi. Alexander Anderson (born 30 Dec 1792 in Crieff, Perthshire, Scotland - Died 17 Mar 1882 in South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada)
vii. Elizabeth Anderson (born 18 May 1795 -)
viii. Helen Anderson (born 7 Jun 1796 -)
ix. Duncan Anderson (born 7 Jun 1799 -)
Helen Robertson, also Helen Robison, also Elin Robertson
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Helen married Alexander Anderson on 5 Jun 1780 in Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland 62. (Alexander Anderson was born about 1760.)
Note that Catherine Kennedy and husband Alexander Alexander name four of their children the same as either the parents of Catherine (John and Christian) or her siblings, that is John, Christiana, Duncan and Margaret. One of the remaining children that being Alexander Anderson would have been named afte Alexander's father.
John married Christian Carmichael 63 on 20 Nov 1785 in Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland 64.
Their children were:
i. Duncan Kennedy (born 1787 . chr. Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland -)
ii. Margaret Kennedy (born 1788 . chr. Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland -)
iii. Donald Kennedy (born 1791 . chr. Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland -)
5 iv. Catherine Kennedy (born 1794 in Scotland - Died 4 Jun 1838 in Ontario, Age 44)
v. Christian Kennedy (born 1795 . chr. Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland -)
vi. Helen Kennedy (born 1797 in Scotland -)
vii. Elizabeth Kennedy (born 1803 . chr. Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland -)
Christian married John Kennedy 63 on 20 Nov 1785 in Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland 64.
Hello,
While playing on the Internet, I came across this resource and
searched my ancestor, Richard Rutherford. I'm traveling to South Monaghan,
Ontario to do further research for some pictures this weekend. Thought you
might like to know that I have a four inch book on this family line. Richard
was indeed married to Jane Nichol, but he was an Englishman of Scottish
descent. He was born in England and christened there. He was a sheepherder
in the Cheviots and lived near Falstone, England. His father was William.
If you have other information about the family line going backwards, please
let me know. I have not traced it further than Richard's father.
Sincerely,
Pam (Rutherford) Wiedmann
Phoenix, Arizona , February, 2001
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William married.
Their children were:
i. James Rutherford (- Died Bef 1850)
6 ii. Richard Rutherford (born Abt 1791 in England - , died in South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada)
iii. Walter Rutherford (born in Cheviot Hills, Scotland -)
Nichol married Agnes 65,66. (Agnes was born about 1773 in England 65.)
Their children were:
7 i. Jane Nichol (born Abt 1801 in Scotland - Died 1856 in South Monaghan, Ontario, Canada)
in 1851 living with Richard Rutherford and his wife Jane Nichol in S. Monaghan, Ontario.
1851 census, National Archives of Canada, film # C-11740, page 35
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