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(Charles) Griffin Marsh 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
All the evidence indicates that the person known as Charles Griffin Marsh was born Griffin Marsh, abt 1827 in Ashdon Essex to parents of Griffin and Ann Marsh, as evidenced below. jca
• Occupation: Labourer, 1861, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire. 10 • Occupation: labourer, unemployed, 1871, Kings Norton, Worcestershire. 2 • Occupation: Gardeners Labourer, 1881, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. 3 • Occupation: labourer, 1891, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. 4 • Occupation: Gardener, 1894. 8 • Occupation: Gardener, 1901, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. 6 • Residence: Stoneham Cottage: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. 6 12
(Charles) married Harriet Elizabeth Lamb, daughter of John Lamb and Harriet Barnett, on 6 Mar 1859 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.1 (Harriet Elizabeth Lamb was born in 1840 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire 2 3 4 13 14 15 and died in 1896 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, age 56 6 16.) |
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Marsh - Lamb, marriage, 1859, FreeBMD. :
Marriages registered March qtr 1859
Lamb, Harriet Elizabeth, Cheltenham, vol 6a, page 569
Marsh, Charles Griffin, Cheltenham vol 6a , page 569
Charles Griffin Marsh, age full, to Harriet Elizabeth Lamb , age 19, married 6 March 1859 and CG, living at 64 Duke St, Cheltenham, Harriet Elizabeth Lamb, age 19 spinster, living at the same place, daughter of John Lamb, labourer.
States father as Charles Marsh, labourer.
Signed by both and witnessed by William Hill and Jane Lamb.
NOTE: 1861 census for the address of 64 Duke Street, Cheltenham
district 2, page 26-27
William Hill, Head,married, male, age 46, Labourer, born Gloucestershire, Hemley
Ellen ", daughter, unmarried, female, age 14, born Cheltenham
Eliza ", daughter, unmarried, female, age 7, born Cheltenham
Allein? ", daughter, unmarried, female, age 3, born Cheltenham
and... Thomas Barnett, Lodger, widower, male, age 79, Labourer, born Gloucestershire, Willington
( I strongly suspect that Harriet (Barnett) Lamb remarried in 1849 to William Hill and that the Thomas Barnett living at 64 Duke Street in 1861 is Harriet's father.) Harriet's father being Thomas Barnett would agree with some family research done on the Lamb and Barnett family posted on the LDS IGI files.
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1871 census, Kings Norton, Worcestershire. :
1871 census Kings Norton, Worcestershire , page 37-38
Malvern St
Charles G Marsh , Head, male, age 40 labourer unemployed, born Ashton [sic]Essex
Harriet E Marsh, Wife, female, age 30, b Gloucester, Cheltenham
Emma J Marsh, daughter, female, age 8 scholar , b Gloucester, Cheltenham
Thomas B Marsh, son, male, 4 , scholar, b Warwickshire, Birmingham
Harriet E Marsh, daughter, female, age 2, b Warwickshire, Birmingham
John G Marsh, son, male, age 1, b Warwickshire, Birmingham
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1881 census, Cheltenham, Gloucester. : 4
1891 census, Cheltenham, Gloucester. : 5
Parish registers, St John, Deritend And Bordesley, Warwick, Church of England, LDS film: 0588406. : 6
1901 census, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. : 7
1841 census, Ashdon, Essex. : 8
Harris - Marsh, marriage, 1894, FreeBMD. Surname First name(s) District Vol Page 9
Marsh family history,Dianne Bee, Western Australia, 2008. : 10
1861 census, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire. : 11
Marsh, Charles Griffin, death 1909, FreeBMD. : 12
Marsh, addressed envelope, Griffin Marsh. [addressed to] 13
Lamb, Harriet, birth registration, 1840, FreeBMD. : 14
1841 census,Cheltenham, Gloucestershire. : 15
1851 census, Brampton, Derbyshire. : 16
Marsh, Harriet Elizabeth, death registration, 1896, FreeBMD. :
Table of Contents | Surnames | Name List This Web Site was Created 20 Aug 2009 with Legacy 6.0 from Millennia
Cheltenham, District 42, page 4
Ambrose Street, Railway Tavern
Harriet Hill, Head, Widow, female, age 62, Innkeeper, born Gloucestershire, Cheltenham
Alice Louisa Bragg, daughter, married, female, age 23, born ", "
William Bragg, Son in law, married, male, age 28, Engine Fitter, born Gloucestershire, Gloucester
Samuel Barnett, adopted son, unmarried, male, age 15, House Carpenter, born Gloucestershire, Cheltenham
Edwin Thomas, border, unmarried, male, age 17, Railway Engine Cleaner, born Gloucestershire, Chesfston?
Dwelling:
Charles MARSH
Harriet MARSH
Emma MARSH
Thomas MARSH
Harriet MARSH
John MARSH
Charles MARSH
George PARR
John GREENSLADE
Inkermann ORCHARD
Albert LEWIS
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Dwelling:
Census Place:
Source:
Name
Mary Jane SALLISS, Head,
Ellen MARSH, Neice,
[note by jca.. additional census records indicate that the above Mary Jane Salliss is likely the wife of Elijah Sallis, a publican in 1871 and a tailor in 1881 in Cheltenham)
A search of marriage indexes on FreeBMD indicate that Elijah Sallis married Mary Jane Barnett in June qtr of 1859, in Cheltenham, vol 6a, page 700.
[It now appears that Ellen Marsh's grandmother was Harriet Barnett.. and Mary Jane (Barnett) Salliss was the elder sister of Harriet Lamb and born prior to the marriage of their parents]
1891 census Cheltenham Glouc , page 15
Stoneham Cottage
Charles Marsh, Head, married, male, age 60, labourer, b Glostershire, Cheltenham
Harriett ", Wife, married, female, age 50, laundress, b Cambridgshire, Ashton
Ellen ", Daur, female, age 18, no employment, Glostershire, Cheltenham
[Based upon the earlier census takings, the birth place for Charles and his wife Harriet Marsh would appear to be misrecorded on this census and likely should show the reverse of that recorded: that is: Charles should be born in Ashton and wife Harriet should be born Cheltenham.. jca]
Christening: Harriet Elizabeth Marsh
30 July 1868, St John, Deritend and Bordesley, Warwick, England
Father: Charles Marsh
Mother: Harriet
Batch: C069811, LDS film 0588406
page 17, No. of schedule: 98
Stoneham Cottage, High Street
Thomas S. Page, Head, married, male, age 39, Porter, Furniture, Worker, born Glos. Lwyning?
Harriet E ", Wife, married, female , age 32, born Birmingham
Ernest W ", Son, single, male, age 13, born Cheltenham
Arthur ", Son, male, age 7,, born Cheltenham
Alice B ", Daur, female, age 4,. born Cheltenham
Rosina V,.G., Daur, female, age 2, born Cheltenham
Charles Marsh ", F-in-Law, Widower, male, age 71, Gardener, not Domestic, Worker, born Cambridge
George Green, Boarder, single, male, age 32, Porter - Furniture, Worker, born Glostershire, Witwing?
page 5
Griffin Marsh, male, age 40, Ag. Lab, born in County
Ann ", female, age 40, born in County
Maria ", female, age 15, in county
Griffin ", male, age 14, in county
Harriet ", female, age 10, in county
John ", male, age 4, in county
Emma, female, age 1, in county
Marriages Sep 1894
HARRIS Joseph Richard , Barton Regis, volume 6a page 222
Marsh Ellen Eliza, Barton Regis, volume 6a , page 222
Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage Given at the General Register Office
1894 Marriage Solemnized at the Parish Church in the Parish of Clifton in the County of Bristol
No. 221
When married: Twenty Second September 1894
Name and Surname: Joseph Richard Harris, Age 20,
Condition: Bachelor
Profession: Stoker
Residence at the time of marriage: 17 Freeland? Place
Father's Name: George Edward Harris
Profession of Father: Stoker
Name and Surname:Ellen Eliza Marsh, Age 21
Condition: Spinster
Profession: [ blank]
Residence at the time of marriage: 27 Bakfield Grove
Father's Name: Charles Griffin Marsh
Profession of father: Gardener
Married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, S. W. Day
This marriage was solemnized between us: Joseph Richard Harris, Ellen Eliza Marsh in the Presence of us, Charles Griffen Marsh, Alice Elizabeth Harris
Mary Ann Marsh was the first born daughter of Griffin and Ann nee Graves born April 1819 Ashdon, she married Henry Fisher 11 Oct 1839 Ashdon, they came to Western Australia with 5 children 1853.
Maria Marsh is the 3rd child b 27 Oct 1824 Ashdon she married Charles Jackson widower 4 Mar 1849, no children, she died not long after of TB.
Mary Ann Marsh.. found her birth date - 18 April 1819, bp May 1819 All Saints Ashdon, the midwife to her birth was Susan Musk who received 3s 0d for attending the birth.
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Ann Graves had a sister Hannah she was born c1790, and married William Thurgood b c1780, one of their daughter's Emily Graves Thurgood emigrated to WA with husband (Thomas Edward Hill )and children
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Emma Marsh married Charles Fitch 19 Jul 1857 Ashdon, he was born in Ashdon 13 Apr 1834 son of Samuel Fitch and Ann Amey Richardson. They had 2 boys Alfred Charles Fitch b Jan 1860 Ipswich St Mary Stoke Suffolk, baptised 14 April 1861 Ashdon. William b 1857 Ashdon.
Alfred was a blacksmith in Sheffield and raised a large family. William left a wife and 2 children in Sheffield and emigrated to WA and lived with his cousin my great grandmother Mary Ann Smith nee Fisher. His wife Lilly refused to come to WA and the family lost contact until recently when I contacted a descendant of Alfred thru Genes Reunited.
Emma Fitch nee Marsh moved to London and lived with William Hirons, check census, they had 8 children together. Of Charles Fitch there is no trace, he disappears after 1861. Was listed as a "navvy" on son's marriage cert.
The Hirons family did not raise the 2 Fitch boys, but W. Hirons took them to Sheffield to find work. I cannot find who looked after the boys after 1861, they too disappear until 1881.
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George Marsh son of William Marsh, (1st born son of Griffin and Ann) discovered coal accidentally and died in the northern goldfields of Australia before claiming his 100 pound reward.
William Fitch son of Emma Marsh sunk the first shaft and brought up 1 ton of coal, he was paid 50 pounds.
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Griffin and Ann had 3 children who died from scarlet fever in 1840. They were-
George b 22 Oct 1831 d 1 Jun 1840
Charles b 10 Sep 1833 d 23 May 1840
Martha b 27 Sep 1835 d 17 May 1840
They had after these children John b 1837, Emma b 1840 and another Charles b 7 May 1845.
The youngest Charles is the one who died here in WA, 1868, from a fall from his horse. Charles Griffin was never Charles only Griffin, but may have taken the name Charles after his brother Charles had left England for WA?
The family did have a tendency to name after deceased children, My Mary Ann Marsh lost a Sarah Ann and her next daughter born was named Sarah Anne, she also lost Henry and Harry but had no further boys.
page 2
Church St.
Charles Marsh, Boarder, unmarried, male, age 30, Labourer, born Cambridgeshire, Ashdon
[ is this our Charles Griffin Marsh), age is right .. but unmarried?? jca}
Charles Griffin Marsh, age 79 died Cheltenham Sep qtr 1909. vol 6a page 235
John Marsh, Garden Cottage, Willow Place
Cambridge, England
[addressed from]
Griffin Marsh, Stoneham Cottage, 170 High Street
Cheltenham, Gloucester, England
[no postmark or date on envelope]
Births Dec 1840
Lamb, Harriet, registered in Cheltenham vol 11, page 199
An LDS submission by a patron indicates that the parents of Harriet Elizabeth Lamb christening 22 Nov 1840 in Cheltenham were:
John Lamb and Harriet Barnett.
LDS Batch 5002104, shet 28, Soure Call No. 1396481, microfilm
page 13
John Lamb, male, age 25, Labourer, born in County
Harriet ", female, age 20, born in County
Mary ", female, age 6, born in County
Harriet ", female, age 7 months, born in County
Brampton, District 12b, page 11
No of schedule: 44, Jacksons Row
William Hill, Head, married, male, age 36, Farm Labourer, born Gloucestershire, Kempley
Harriott ", Wife, married, female, age 32, born Gloucestershire, Cheltenham
Jane ", daughter, unmarried, female, age 15, born ", "
Harriott ", daughter, unmarried,female, age 10, born ", "
Ellen ", daughter , unmarried, female, age 4, born ", "
Deaths registered March qtr 1896
MARSH, Harriet Elizabeth, age 56, registered Cheltenham, vol 6a, page 285
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