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| Martha (Patty) Winch
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Martha (Patty) Winch 1 2 3 4
Dear Jim, Many thanks for your reply. Yes indeed the name of wife #3 is ANN MATHEWS. I do think we could find her death in Ohio or Michigan if we looked through the databases. Even better to use the AIS (all U.S. census alpha indexed, and locate her as Ann Winch probably alive 1875-1880 or 1885 censuses. She probably used that name. Just have not gotten to it. Too many problems with my mother's other line!! So I have put the Winches aside for a long period, as I had found quite alot of material. Yet much could be done. For instance, Samuel Jr. sisters, Patty (a common nickname diminutive for Martha [her gr. grandmother in the Maynard line] whose married name I believe was HAZELTON, and who later lived in OH, where I think she may be the person who (as Uncle William said in his letters to my Aunt "Father's sister Patty introduced him to Mary Dexter), wife #4. (the widow who had several children, and with whom he went to Minn. to Fillmore county for a while, at least long enough for them both to sign there names on one of the county land records in the mid 1850's. They were also on a census , where she is listed with him, and several of her children as well. From all appearances the "Dexter Winch"on that census, judging from his age must likely be her son from the previous marriage, as the age would not be compatible from the date of their marriage. I do not find evidence of any children from that marriage. There is a Samuel Winch that did live in Minn for a short time. He was I think our Samuel JR.s nephew, the son of his brother John Winch who remained in York County Ontario and died there. that Samuel went back and forth to Ontario, and for all I know could have visited with other family along the way. In the HISTORY of YORK CO. ONTARIO, published Toronto 1885, by C. Blackett Robinson Vol 2.,Page 504, Samuel Winch(JOHN's son) b, 1829 in this township(E/ Gill.).
Martha married William Hazeltine. |
1 LDS IGI Files , Salt Lake City, LDS IGI Files , Salt Lake City, LDS 1761108. Betsey, christened 4, Jan 1789, Fitzwilliam, Cheshire, Vermont.
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D.A.R. application, Mrs. Jane M. Robbins, Daughters of the American Revolution, Mrs. Jane M. Robbins, DAR National number 321271 (April 10, 1940, D.A.R. Tracy, Minnesota, chapter name: Captain Comfort Starr). I, Jane M. Robbins being of the age of eighteen years and upwards, hereby apply for membership in the Society by right of lineal descent in the following line from Samuel Winch, Sr. who was bapt. in Framingham, Mass. on the 3rd day of February, 1760 and died in Canada after 1797. His place of residence during the Revolution was Fitwilliam, N.H.
I was born in Lenora, County of Fillmore, State of Minnesota on April 24, 1864.
1. I am the daughter of Asel Winch born on 7/15/1822 at Onandaga Co. N.Y. died at Dovray twp. Murray Co. Minnesota on 11/23/1919 married (2nd) 8/5/1854 to Elizabeth English born on 5/1/1830 at Carlow, Carlow Co. Ire. died at Prosper, Fillmore Co. Minnesota on 2/16/1900.
2. The said Asel Winch was the child of Samuel Winch, Jr. born on 8/1/1797 at Utica, Oneida Co. N.Y. buried at Painesville, Lake Co., O on 5/14/1875 married (1st) abt. 1821 to Elizabeth Mountany died on 1847.
3. the said Samuel Winch, Jr. was the child of Samuel Winch, Sr. bapt on 2/3/1760 at Framingham, Mass died at Canada after 1797 married (1st) on 6/29/1780 to Elizabeth Maynard born on 4/24/1761 at Framingham, Mass.
Eligibility Clause
My Revolutionary ancestor was married
(1) to Elizabeth Maynard at Fitzwilliam, N.H. 6/29, 1780
Children of Revolutionary Ancestor
Infant d 4/2/1781
Patricia, bapt. 1/4/1789
Elizabeth, bapt. 1/4/1789
Susan, bapt. 1/4/1789
Samuel born 8/1/1787, married (1) Elizabeth Mountany, (2) Rosetta Dafoe
John, born 1/26/1799, married (1) Lydia Mann, (2) Jane Mulkin
Clarissa, born 1801, married Hugh Ogilvie
References for Lineage
1. For Samuel Winch, see "Old Northwest Genealogy Quarterly" for 1900, vol 3, p. 110, also History of Fitzwilliam, N.H. by Nortion, p. 192 (gives Rev.. anc's marriage & children) also New Hampshire State Papers, vol 15, p. 218, vol 15, p. 542, vol 16, p, 82,95, History of Framingham, Mass. by Temple, p.749
2. (Applicant is the Mother of Georgia Robbins Nash, Nat. No. 219745. See papers attached to Mrs Nash's application papers for other family records & certified military record. )
Applicaton for membership to the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution , Washington , D.C. for Mrs. Jane M. Robbins (Margaret Jane Winch) ,Widow of John Alexander Robbins, residence 876 Center Street, Tracy, Minnesota , Descendant of Samuel Winch. Application approved by National Society, April 22, 1940
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Winch, William, letters of 1925, San Diego, CA, William Winch, letters to Mrs. Clyde Robbins, (Fae Robbins), the historian and genealogist of Tracy, Fillmore County, Minnesota, this copy sent to James C Anderson from from June Nash Lindquist of 225 Arlington Ave, Berkeley, Calif. and received here May 3, 2001. jca .. copy of a letter from William Winch, Box 55, RFD #3, San Diego, Calif. to Mrs. Clyde Robbins, (Fae Robbins), the historian and genealogist of Tracy, Fillmore County, Minnesota. Letter dated May 15, 1925. this copy sent to James C Anderson from from June Nash Lindquist of 225 Arlington Ave, Berkeley, Calif. and received here May 3, 2001. jca .
(spelling unaltered from the original)
San Diego,
May 15, 1925
Dear Friends
To one and all
received yours photoes and manny thanks for them
you all look verry well indeede yiet wuld not have known you had I met you on the street, but time tells on us all, isppose you folks would not no me if you was to meet me unsuspectedly, wel have you had any more snow storms since, we have it alittle cloudy and col for california for the last weak or more but we always hear of rough weather off in other parts of the country, but our cloudy days does not last long we dont have to ceep the fire agoing to ceep comfortable, we have dug our spuds, have been eating new spuds for some time. carrots peas and other vegitables for some time, we will send you our ugly photoes soon, as we can get them taken, well we thought of some we had taken one up in washington at Snoqualime falls, 2 years ago, we were up on a visit to our sons, now we spent the most of the time camping out in the mountains, we had a very pleasant time, it was good for us, our son had an automobile and took us around sight seeing, so you see we had a verry pleasant time. Snoqualmy falls is a wonderful sight to see, a large river and sutch a heavy sheet of water falling 280 feet in a deap canyon winding its way for many miles away a fine rainbow is seene all the time when the sun shines, our son is living at the falls they have 2 little girls, the other picture was taken in Balboa Park here in the city, a lady friend and hur 14 year son was down from washington they spent a weak or 10 days with us and she had a camera and took it in the park, now in regard to those questions I have answered I would not vouch as for there being all of them being rite up to the year day and date, but have gave it my careful thoughtful study cince receiving them from you and it is the best I can do for you, you see the moste of it hapened while I was verry young, can onley just remember of seeing mother lying in the cofin in the cold icy arms Death and a large company of people gathered there and they took hur away, that was the last of poor mother but I hope to see hur again where parting will be no more. Father went back to Canada in 1855 and went by the way of Painsville, Ohio to see his sister and hur name I think was Patty, and hur son came to us and settled in Minnesota that is the way he came to get aquainted with Mary Dexter, there was arangements made the folks there to ceep hur while she lived as aunt Paty owned the place, Hazelton was their names. Will sende you folks some good photos later on.
with best regards to all from Mr. and Mrs. Winch
Followed by questions posed to William Winch by Fae Robbins, historian and genealogist of Tracy, Minnesota.
Q. Do you know the the names and addresses of any of yur Uncle John's folks in Canada? I would be very glad to get them- if you do..
A. the onley ones I know is my uncle Johns son my cousin Samuel Winch, Lake Simco ontario. you had beter direct to him or anny of the Winch family if known.
Q. I find a Lake Simcoe and a town by the name of Simcoe in Ontario Canada. do you know which place the winches lived?
A.they lived in Lake Simco ontario
Q, Do you ever write to any of your brother's or sister's children- that might know anything about their parents and grandparents?
A.you might write to my sister margaret ann Roles, Roseburg, Mishigan She might be able to give you some valuabl informationon the subject, now I have given you all the information I know, and if i hear of anything on the subject that would be of interest to you will gladly let you know wishing you success in your undertaking,
respecfully yours, Wm Winch,
uncle John Winch that lived at Lake Simcoe Canada, his sons name was Samuel Winch, my cousin, he worked for my father, at the olde homestead wheare I was born, in East Gillinsbury, it called, in Canada
Q. Do you remember any uncles or aunts on your father's side except Uncle John Winch, brother to Samuel Winch, Jr ?
A. uncle John Winch that lived at Lake Simcoe Canada, his sons name was Samuel Winch, my cousin, he worked for my father, at the olde homestead wheare I was born, in East Gillinsbury, it called, in Canada
Q.Were you born in Onondaga County, N.Y. and do you know what town was your address at that time? We think that your brother Asel was born July 15, 1822- do know if this is correct. Would also like to know the date of your birth?
A. I was born in the year of 1841 in Canada and our nearest town was Bradford, I think Asel was born in York State, from what I have heard, but this is as far as i know.
Q. Do you know what year you went to Canada from New York state. Did Asel Winch go at the same time- Did he marry his first wife in New York state and was her name Harriet Peg- if he did do you know where they were married and when and where is she buried-
A. Asels first wife name was Harriet Peg, think they were married at the olde homestead in Canada, she dide and was Burried in Maryburrogh township, 12 miles from aensville. I have just found aleter from Asels daughter Lidia giveing the date of his Death, and his age so will sende it you so you have his age correct July 15, 1822
Asels Daughters address
Lydia Bursell
2252 Gatewood St.
Los Angeles, Calif
from what I have hurd from the older sisters Asel was asmall boy when Father moved to East Gilensburry Canada, do not know what year Father moved to Canada he built amill with two upright Sash Saws and run the mill 18 years so I have hurd him say he owned 600 acre of land there the most of the timber was pine and all the land was heavily timbered.
Aprile 20th 25 we had alovely Easter here like June but we have them the year arround, have had no snow nor haile nor gimeycat( spelling?) or tornadoes and but 1 1/2 inches of rain dont neede it we erigate our gardens here with a fifty foot hoes, for garden and house we pay 1.00 per month for water, the sun shines almost all the time we nede fire only to cook and washday.
$15.00 worth of wood runs us ayear, all flours live out in the open the year round, this is my home while I live.
Q. Do you know when your father married his second wife, Rosetta Dafoe- How long did she live- how old were you at the time of the marriage?
A. Father and rossetta dafoe was married in the year 1849 and she dide in 1852 up in the queensbush, I was 8 year olde when they were married. She died in the summer of 1852
Q. Do you know when he married Ann _______ his third wife and what her her last name was- Also do you know when he married his fourth wife- Mary Dexter? Have you any idea how long they lived in Painseville Ohio?
A. he married Ann Mathues, in the spring of 1854 he married Mary Dexter in the spring of 1856 ithink he lived in Painsville five years. She lived longer than did, 2 or 3 years longer
Q. Do you remember of having an Aunt Clara- a sister to John and your father.
A. yes aunt clara often visited us at the olde home stead in East Gillinsbury I was just akid at the time but we loved to see aunt clara,
Q. Do you know whether your grandfather Samuel Sr. died at your Uncle John's home in Canada?
A. no I never saw or hurd of any of our relatives after we left the olde homestead onley cousin Samuel Winch worked for father up in the queensbush in merrybourough township awhile and went back that was the last act...??
the name of the County of either place, the name of the township where we lived in the queens Bush, was maryburrough, a wooded place 6 miles square but queens Bush contained a great manny such places of 6 miles square,
uncle John lived about a days drive from the olde homestead, he lived at Lake Simco, that is all I know about it, being but a kid at that time.
I do not know where any of margaret anns children is,
I do not know what became of his olde papers, or how the Estate of my fathers was settled up as the (over to new page)
it was setled in court at Painsville Ohio his third wife came on and laid in a claim for hur Dowery and succeded in geting it, and the fourth wife sued the estate and got the Balance of the property as she claimed she never knew he had awife liveing at the time of their marriage,
So you might find out to rite to the clerk of the cort at Painsville Ohio,
uncle John belonged to the Advents, my Father belonged to an Eye for an Eye and a tooth for a toth,
wea have not got our pictures taken yiet have been so buisey lydia bursell visited us from Los angelous, the other day.
my regards to all
Wm Winch
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1850 census, Mentor, Lake County, Ohio. :Mentor district No. 171, Lake County, Ohio
family 125
William Hazleton, age 37, male, Farmer, $1000, Place of Birth U. C. [Upper Canada],
Mary ", age 30, female, Maine
Angeline ", age 10, female, O [Ohio]
Hiram ", age 8, male, O
Mary ", age 7, female, O
William ", age 5, male, O
Emma ", age 1, female, O
Sidney Barnes, age 22, male, Sailor, born U. C.
Martha Hazleton, age 67, female, born N. H. [New Hampshire]
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LDS IGI Files , Salt Lake City, LDS IGI Files , Salt Lake City, film # 1761108. "Betsey Winch, christening , 4 Jan 1789, Fitzwilliam, Ches, Vermont,
parents Samuel Sr. Winch, Elizabeth Maynard".
6 1850 census, Mentor, Lake County, Ohio.
7 D.A.R. application, Mrs. Jane M. Robbins, Daughters of the American Revolution, Mrs. Jane M. Robbins, DAR National number 321271 (April 10, 1940, D.A.R. Tracy, Minnesota, chapter name: Captain Comfort Starr).
8 Winch, William, letters of 1925, San Diego, CA, William Winch, letters to Mrs. Clyde Robbins, (Fae Robbins), the historian and genealogist of Tracy, Fillmore County, Minnesota, this copy sent to James C Anderson from from June Nash Lindquist of 225 Arlington Ave, Berkeley, Calif. and received here May 3, 2001. jca ..
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