John Morad
(-Bef 1912)
Frederick (Fritz) Morad
(Abt 1875-)

 

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Spouses/Children:
Alice Randall Allsop

Frederick (Fritz) Morad 1 3 4

  • Born: Abt 1875, Germany 1 2 5
  • Marriage: Alice Randall Allsop on 8 Apr 1912 in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England 1 2
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bullet  Research Notes:

December 26, 2002, Mrs Katherine Dyson recalls that she was told that her father's name was like a brand of cigarettes of the time.. A bit of research pointed to the brand "MURAD Cigarettes" from 1915-1920, described as THE Turkish Cigarette. see web site at:
http://pelorus.scriptmania.com/cig/cmurad1.htm for very nice examples of their art forms.

A search of the 1901 census records in England turned up no results for the name Murad and only 1 person named Morad. We are now eagerly awaiting the release of the 1911 census.

August 22, 2010
With some great persistance, the 1911 census finds our "Fred Morrad", single, male age 36, born Germany and occupation Baker , living at the same address as given on the marriage registration of Fritz Morad and Alice Allsop on their 1912 marriage.. as 195 St. George Street, St. George in the East , London..
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I will try and find more about the family in the new year. I have always thought that grandmother's maiden name was Randal or Randall. Grandfather was a Rhinelander, I believe, but I don't think my mother ever knew whether he was from the German or the French side. He seemed to like the idea of being which ever of the two nationalities suited at the time. His surname was Morad. He seems to have used Fritz, Francois or Francis as first names. I have never known Alice as "Allsop", but only ever heard her referred to as Alice Randal, Alice Randal Morad or Alice Morad, except that I believe she remarried when she went to USA, but I do not recollect the name of the man she married. I shall let you know as and when I discover more.
Best wishes to you all from the family here for Christmas and 2003.
Robert Denman, Dec 2002
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Note 1925 death registration of a Frederick J Morrad, registered June qtr 1925, in Hitchin, vol 3a, page 679
ordered from GRO 27 August, 2010... lets hope.... jca
Note: that this is the same year that Alice Morad left England and arrived in Canada. It was always thought that
the Alice's move to Canada and the USA may have been preceded by the death of her husband Frederick. jca
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bullet  Noted events in his life were:

• Residence: 195 St. George Street, 1911, St. George in the East, London. 5

• Occupation: Baker, 1911, St. George in the East, London. 5

• Occupation: Baker, 1912, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England. 2

• Residence: 195 St. Georges Street, 1912, London E., England. 2

• Residence: 66 Carlton Vale, 1913, Willesden, Middlesex, England. 4

• Occupation: Journeyman Baker, 1913, Willesden, Middlesex, England. 4

• Residence: Roseberry Manor, 1920, Shanklin, Isle of Wight, England. 3


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Frederick married Alice Randall Allsop, daughter of George (Parker) Allsop and Keturah Trueman, on 8 Apr 1912 in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England.1 2 (Alice Randall Allsop was born on 25 Mar 1888 in Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England 2 6 7 8 9 and died possibly abt 1968 ? in Montreal, Québec?.)


bullet  Marriage Notes:


Certified copy of an entry of marriage,
1912, Marriage solemnized at The Parish Church, in the Parish of St. Mary's, Sheffield in the County of York

No. 13
When married: April 8, 1912
Name: Fritz Morad, age 35, Bachelor, profession: Baker,
residence: 195 St. Georges Street, London, E.
Father's Name: John Morad (deceased), profession: Carpenter

Alice Allsop, age 24, Spinster,
residence: 188 Edmund Rd.
Father's name: George Allsop, profession: Sawyer

married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, Arthur Robinson.

This marriage was solemnized between us,
Fritz Morad, Alice Allsop
in the presence of us: George Allsop, Mary Annie Allsop, George Allsop, Mary Jenkins
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I will try and find more about the family in the new year. I have always thought that grandmother's maiden name was Randal or Randall. Grandfather was a Rhinelander, I believe, but I don't think my mother ever knew whether he was from the German or the French side. He seemed to like the idea of being which ever of the two nationalities suited at the time. His surname was Morad. He seems to have used Fritz, Francois or Francis as first names. I have never known Alice as "Allsop", but only ever heard her referred to as Alice Randal, Alice Randal Morad or Alice Morad, except that I believe she remarried when she went to USA, but I do not recollect the name of the man she married. I shall let you know as and when I discover more.
Best wishes to you all from the family here for Chritmas and 2003.
Robert Denman, Dec 24, 2002

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Sources


1 Dyson, Catherine, interview, Nov 5, 2001, Dec 26, 2002, Mar 19, 2003, Mrs. Catherine Dyson, Kelowna, B.C. I got married at a private ceremony in Vancouver, B.C. on the 19th of December 1946 after arriving by air into Vancouver the previous day. (interview by James Anderson on 19 October, 2010 in Kelowna, B.C.)

2 Morad - Allsop , marriage registration, 1912, General Register Office, England. :
Certified copy of an entry of marriage,
1912, Marriage solemnized at The Parish Church, in the Parish of St. Mary's, Sheffield in the County of York

No. 13
When married: April 8, 1912
Name: Fritz Morad, age 35, Bachelor, profession: Baker,
residence: 195 St. Georges Street, London, E.
Father's Name: John Morad (deceased), profession: Carpenter

Alice Allsop, age 24, Spinster,
residence: 188 Edmund Rd.
Father's name: George Allsop, profession: Sawyer

married in the Parish Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, Arthur Robinson.

This marriage was solemnized between us,
Fritz Morad, Alice Allsop
in the presence of us: George Allsop, Mary Annie Allsop, George Allsop, Mary Jenkins

3 Morad, Catherine Irene Denyse, baptism certificate, 1920, The Sacred Heart, Shanklin, Isle of Wight, England, Certificate of Baptism, The Sacred Heart Catholic Church, Shanklin, Isle of Wight,. :
Certificate of Baptism.

I certify that Catherine Irene Denyse Morad daughter of Frederick Morad and Alice Morad (formerly) Allsop, was born on the 31st day of January, 1920 and was baptised on the 19th day of February, 1923, at the Church of the Sacred Heart, Shanklin, Isle of Wight, by the Rev. Patrick J. MacSwiney.

The sponsors were Denyse Thauvron and ------.
And I further Certify that the above is a true copy of the Register kept in the Catholic Church at THE SACRED HEART, SHANKLIN, ISLE OF WIGHT.

signed, Edward H Clark, date 3rd June 1934

[Denyse Thauvron spent much of her life at this time in New York as per this arrival back in New York in September, 1934.

New York Passenger lists: 1820-1957
Denyse Thauvron,
arrival date: 21 Sep 1934
est birth year: abt 1889 Female
departure: Cherbourg, France
Place of origin: French
Ship Name: Berengaria

Name: Denyse Thauvron Estimated birth year: abt 1889 Age: 45 Gender: Female Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France Place of Origin: French Ship Name: Berengaria, Port of Arrival: New York, New York Nativity: England Line: 19 Microfilm Serial: T715 Microfilm Roll: T715_5551 Birth Location: England Birth Location Other: Geugnon Page Number: 124]
. US Social Security Death Index:
Name: Denyse Thauvron
SSN: 571-05-5845
Last Residence: 10016 New York, New York, New York, United States of America
Born: 4 Apr 1889
Last Benefit: 10021 New York, New York, New York, United States of America
Died: Feb 1978 State (Year)
SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

[This SSN death index is the only "Thauvron" listed on available indexes and it just happens to be a
Denyse Thauvron and could easily be the nanny to Catherine Irene Denyse Morad. jca
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New York Passenger Lists, Ancestry.com


Name: Denise Thauvron
Arrival Date: 22 Sep 1935
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Age: 46 Gender: Female
Occupation: Teacher
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Place of Origin: United States of America
Ship Name: Champlain Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: French
Line: 15 Microfilm Serial: T715 Microfilm Roll: 5708 Page Number: 30
Port Arrival State: New York Port Arrival Country: United States
Birth Location: France
Birth Location Other: Guenignen
Last Permanent Residence: U.S.A., Philadelphia, Pa.


Name: Denyse Maria Thauvron
Arrival Date: 13 Sep 1937
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Age: 48, Gender: Female , Single
Occupation: Teacher
Port of Departure: Le Havre, France
Place of Origin: United States of America
Ship Name: Normandie,
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Natonality: French
Line: 6 Microfilm Serial: T715 Microfilm Roll: 6044, Page Number: 47
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Birth Location: France
Birth Location Other: Gueugnon
Last permanent address: U.S.A., Palo Alto, Cal.

4 Morad, Margerethe Annie, birth registration, 1913, General Register Office, Willesden registration district, volume 3a, page 661. :
Registration district: Willesden, 1913 birth in the Sub-District of Willesden, in the County of Middlesex

No. 101,
When and where born: First March 1913, 66 Carlton Vale, U.D.
Name: Margerethe Annie
Sex: Girl

Name of Father: Fritz Morad
Name of Mother: Alice Morad, formerly Allsop
Occupation of father: Baker (Journeyman)
signature of informant: Alice Morad, mother, 66 Carlton Vale
When registered: Thirty first March, 1913,
Registrar John Algar

5 1911 census, St. George in the East, enumeration district 22. :
Claus, Henry, Head, Married, married 13 years, male, age 41, Grocer Shop Keeper, born Germany resident,
Claus, Kate, Wife, married, female, age 34, assisting in the business, born Gemany,
Yunster, Phili, Servant, single, male, age 30, Servant, born Germany,
Morrad, Fred, Boarder, single, male, age 36, occupation: Barker [Baker? jca], born Germany

6 1901 census, Whittington, Derbyshire, England. :
RG13, Piece 3253, Folio 68, Page 15, Schedule 90

line 5
64 Church Street, Whittington, Derbyshire

George Allsop, Head, married, age 37, occupation: Circular Sawyer Timberyard, born Notts Worksop
Keturah Allsop, Wife, married, age 35, born Notts Worksop
Alice ", daughter, age 13, attending School, born ditto ditto
George ", son, age 11, attending School, born ditto ditto
John ", son, age 9, attending School, born Yorks, Sheffield
Horace ", son age 7, attending School, born Lincoln, Gainsbro
Ethel ", daughter, age 5, attending School, born Notts Worksop

7 Allsop, Alice, birth registration , 1888, General Register Office. :
Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth, given at the General Register Office
Registration District: Worksp,
1888 Birth in the Sub-District of Worksop, in the County of Nottingham

No. 1
When and Where Born: Twenty fifth March 1888, Abbey Street, Worksop
Name: Alice
Sex: Girl

Name and surname of father: George Allsop
Name and surname of mother: Keturah Allsop, formerly Trueman
Occupation of Father: Circular Sawyer

informant: Geo. Allsop, Father, Abbey Street, Worksop
When registered : Twenty fourth April, 1888,
registrar: William White, Registrar

8 1891 census, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, district 5. :
district 5, page 5
No. of schedule: 30
81 Abbey Street
George Truman, Head, married, age 47, Ret Labourer, born Worksop, Notts
Martha Truman, wife, married, age 36, born Grantham, Essex

district 5, page 5
No. of schedule: 33
87 Abbey Street
George Allsop, Head, married, age 28, occupation Sawyer, Circular, born Worksop, Notts.
Keturah Allsop, wife, married, age 26, occupation --? maker, born Worksop, Notts
Mary Ann Allsop, daughter, single, age 5, scholar, born Worksop, Notts
Alice Allsop, daughter, single, age 3, born Worksop, Notts
George Allsop, son, single, age 1, born Worksop, Notts


district 5, page 34
No. of schedule: 22
42 Betherton Road
William Truman, Head, married, age 53, Sawyer, employed, born Worksop, Notts
Susanah Truman, Wife, married, age 53, born Ordsall, Notts
Sarah J Truman, daughter, single, age 20, Dressmaker, born Worksop, Notts
Alice Truman, daughter, single, age 11, scholar

9 1911 census, London,St.Pancras, Enumeration Distict 8. :
1911 census
71 Gordon Mansions, London, St. Pancras, South St. Pancras, Enumeration District 8
Kennedy, Howard, Angus, married, male, age 49, Journalist, born London, Stepney
Kennedy, Louise, Wife, married, female, age 55, born United States
Kennedy, Helen Louise, Daughter, single, female, age 23, born Canada, Quebec Province
Allsop, Alice, Servant, single, female, age 23, General Domestic Servant, born Notts, Worksop

[note Howard Angus Kennedy was a news correspondent ]
Call #: Shortt FC3215 .K466 1928 Author: Kennedy, Howard Angus, 1861-1938 </northwest/index/author/91.html>
Title: The North-West Rebellion / by Howard Angus Kennedy. Published: Toronto : Ryerson Press, [c1928] Description: 32 p. : ill., facsims; 19 cm. Notes: Cover title. Another copy in Pamphlet LXII-41 A brief history of both resistances written for school children. Kennedy was a correspondent for the Times (London) during the 1885 Resistance and his first hand account includes some useful details. Subject: Northwest Rebellion, 1885 </northwest/index/subject/17.html>


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