John Kennedy
Christian Carmichael
Ellen Kennedy
(1797-1879)

 

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William Anderson

Ellen Kennedy 253,865,866,867,868

  • Born: 1797, Scotland 866,869,870
  • Christened: 6 Sep 1797, Kenmore, Perthshire, Scotland 871
  • Marriage: William Anderson on 7 Jan 1827 in Fortingall, Perth, Scotland 863,864
  • Died: 28 Nov 1879, Manvers twp, Durham County, Ontario aged 82 871,872

bullet   Cause of her death was Paralysis 3 weeks.871

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bullet  General Notes:

Letter from Hazel Anderson of Toronto, Ontario to James C. Anderson, dated July 31, 1976.

"Another item I have about Catherine Kennedy is that she had a brother John who worked for the Government, and he was evidently in Canada before them. He was the one who was instrumental in getting the Andersons and several other families with whom they had become friendly to move from Beckwith Township to South Monaghan, where he owned some better land. Catherine also had a sister Helen, who was married to a William Anderson, but as far as we know the two Anderson men were not related. Somewhere in my multitude of notes I have a list of the children of Helen and William. These were given to me by a descendant of theirs who lived in the Port Arthur or Thunder Bay area. I was not able to trace any really definite relationship between us from the information she sent, except that Helen was a sister of our Great Grandmother Katherine or Catherine. "

Note by James C. Anderson. Note that the 1820, 1821, and the 1822 census records for Beckwith twp, in Lanark County all show a John Kennedy, a single male. Could this be the John Kennedy to whom Hazel Anderson was referring?
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1851 census S. Monaghan, Ontario, National Archives of Canada, film # C11740,
S. Monaghan, Ontario, part of lot 13, 100 acres land, one story log house.
William Anderson, farmer, b. Scotland, married age 52
Ellen Anderson, b. Scotland, age 54
Alexander , labourer, b. Canada age 22,
Christy b. Canada age18, Ellen b. Canada age 16, Ann b. Canada age 14, Catherine b Canada age 10
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This surely must be the William Anderson and wife "Helen" that is mentioned in the letter from Hazel Anderson to James C. Anderson dated July 31, 1976. The "Helen" that is a sister to Catherine Kennedy. note by James C. Anderson..
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1861 census, S. Monaghan, Ontario, National Archives of Canada, film # C1055, page 21, line 15
William Anderson, farmer, b. Scotland, Free Church, age 66
Ellen Anderson b. Scotland, age 62
Alexander Anderson, single, age 30, Christy, single, age 26
Ellen, single, age 24, Ann, single, age 22
AND.....GEORGE KENNEDY, AGE 7, RESIDENCE IN COBURG, (Ontario)
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note by James C. Anderson... this entry for George Kennedy is most interesting as it ties Ellen Anderson to the Kennedy family as noted by the letter from Hazel Anderson to James C. Anderson dated July 31, 1976.. It appears that young George Kennedy , age 7, was visiting the Andersons during the census taking. I must check out the census for Cobourg, Ontario for 1861.. it should be interesting..jca
Perhaps young George Kennedy is a grandson of the missing brother John Kennedy.
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Here is the 1861 census record for young George Kennedy in Cobourg, Ontario.

1861 census, Cobourg, Ontario, National Archives of Canada, film # C1054, page 75
Julia Kennedy, b. England, religion WM, age 40, widow
Thomas Kennedy, b. upper Canada, age 12, absent at census
(note: it may be the turn for Thomas Kennedy to visit William and Ellen Anderson at the farm in the country... jca)
George Kennedy, b. upper Canada, age 8
Mary E. Kennedy, b. upper Canada, age 10
John Kennedy, b. upper Canada, age 6
on 1/4 acre lot, frame house
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note: the George Kennedy mentioned on the Cobourg census of 1861(film C1054, page 75, age 8) is for sure the same George Kennedy also picked up on the S. Monaghan census also of 1861 (film C-1055, page 21, age 7) who happened to be visiting William Anderson and wife Ellen who I suspect is his great aunt. quote : "George Kennedy, age 7 , residence Cobourg". It is a pity that mother Julia is a widow. It will make it harder to trace back one more Kennedy generation to where I suspect we will find a John Anderson , the missing brother to Catherine and Ellen or "Helen" Kennedy. jca
A search of the census records for Cobourg for 1861 found only a very few Kennedy's in the quite sizable town. No other Kennedy match was even interesting. jca . the Cobourg records for 1871 are missing so they are of no help.
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Hi Jim,
I think that you are heading in the right direction. From I don't know where as I didn't right down the source, I have the following.

From Fortingal, Perthshire, Scotland
? KENNEDY ------ Catherine sp. Alex Anderson *
------ Helen sp. Wm. Anderson * * not related
------ John

family of Helen & William

Christy, unmarried d. 1918 in Chesley, ON
Ellen, unmarried
Annie sp Duncan Anderson s/o Donald Anderson
Catherine
Alex - drowned

Let me know what you think
June James, February 3, 2001
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Back in Scotland a search of the IGI files shows only one likely marriage record between William Anderson and Helen Kennedy but it does show up on three or more different films.. I dont know why this is as I have not yet seen the original films..

IGI Record: William Anderson marriage to Hellen Kennedy, 7 Jan 1827, Kenmore, Perth, Scotland,
Batch number M113605, film # 1040118,

IGI Record: William Anderson, marriage to Helen Kennedy, 7 Jan 1827, Fortingall, Perth, Scotland,
Batch number M113552, film # 1040116, 0102727

IGI Record; William Anderson, marriage to Hellen Kennedy, 7 Feb 1827, Kenmore, Perth, Scotland.
Batch number 7224212, film # 0822021

Co-incidently or not, Kenmore Perthshire is where we found the very likely good marriage record between Alexander Anderson and Elin (or Helen) Robertson a generation earlier.

IGI Record, Alexander Anderson, marriage to Elin Robertson, 5 Jun 1780, Kenmore, Perth, Scotland
Batch number M113604, film # 1040117
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Sept 27, 2001, Hi Jim,
Saw your posting on the Family Tree on Ancestry.com. It really caught my attention as I have been trying to find information on Helen Kennedy and William Anderson. I read your notes and found that you referred to a Hazel Anderson. I have letters that she wrote to my great aunt, Bessie Anderson back in 1967. I also have a letter from (looks like) Thomas Anderson from Sth. Monaghan to the same Bessie Anderson in 1924. In both letters there is mention of Catherine Kennedy and Helen Kennedy being sisters. If so, then I can supply you with more information on the William Anderson/Helen Kennedy line if you are interested. It gets complicated, but I shall try to make it understandable. (If you are not interested, you best stop reading now-----grin.)
William Anderson married Helen Kennedy Jan 7, 1827 in Fortingall, Scotland. They had a son born in Scotland in 1829 named Alexander. They came to Canada (Sth Monaghan, Ont.) sometime shortly after that. Once in Canada, they had 4 more children, all girls. Christy b. 1832 - d. 1920 - buried in Chesley, Ont.
Ellen b. 1835 - d. 1911 - buried in Chesley, Ont.
Annie b. 1837 - d. 1903 - buried in Chesley, Ont.
Catherine b. 1840 or 41 - d 1920 - buried in Chesley, Ont.
Their brother Alex is buried in Chesley also, alongside them. On his tombstone it says he died May 24, 1883 at age 53. From letters that we have from past generations, it appears he drowned.
According to the Bruce Atlas, 1880, William Anderson (married to Helen Kennedy) and Alexander Anderson (married to Catherine Kennedy) owned farms beside each other in Sth Monaghan. I do not believe that this William and Alexander were related in any way except that they married sisters. So, now saying, I shall proceed to William Anderson, who I am a gggg niece of. William was born in Weem, Scotland to John Anderson and Annie Campbell. He was christened July 4, 1800 in the Weem Parish. He had a number of siblings but one in particular was a Donald Anderson, his brother, who I am a direct descendant of. Donald had a number of children also, among them 3 boys named John, Duncan and William. To keep it straight, these 3 boys were William Anderson (and Helen Kennedy's) nephews. Have I lost you yet? These 3 nephews came to Canada. John was my great great grandfather, and Duncan married Annie Anderson (daughter of William Anderson and Helen Kennedy.) Seeing as how William Anderson and Helen Kennedy were Duncan's uncle and aunt, that means when he married their daughter Annie, he married his cousin.
John Anderson married Ann Campbell - 1799 - Scotland
Children of John & Ann
i. William b. 1800 Scotland d. Ont. ?
married Helen Kennedy b. 1797 Scotland d. Ont. ?
Children of William & Helen:
---Alexander b. 1829 Scotland d. 1883 Ontario (drowned)
---Christy b. 1832 Ont. d. 1920 Ont.
---Ellen b. 1835 Ont. d. 1911 Ont.
---Ann b. 1837 Ont. d. 1903 Ont.
married Duncan Anderson b. 1828, Fortingall, Scotland, son of Donald Anderson & Elizabeth McGregor
---Catherine b. 1840-41 Ont. d. 1920 Ont.
ii. Alexander b. 1803 Scotland
iii. Donald Anderson b. 1805 Scotland d. 1874 Scotland
married Elizabeth McGregor b. 1803 Scotland d. 1888 Scotland
Children of Donald Anderson & Elizabeth McGregor
-----John b. 1826 Scotland d. 1907 Ontario
married Isabella McGregor in 1857 in Ontario, Canada
Children of John & Isabella
---Donald b. 1858 d. 1957
---Elizabeth b. 1859 d. ?
---Alexander b. 1861 d. 1947
married Elizabeth Thomas
Children of Alexander & Elizabeth
---William Anderson married Evelyn McMullen
Children of William & Evelyn
----Maurice Anderson married Shirley Gessner
Children of Maurice & Shirley
---Heather Anderson (me)
----Duncan b. 1829 Scotland d. 1905 Ont.
married Anne Anderson b. 1837 Ont. d. 1903 Ont. daughter of William Anderson & Helen Kennedy
I am stopping here. There are more children for a few of the above, but I only listed ones I am directly descended from to show where I fit in. I have no proof that Helen & Catherine were sisters, other than the letters I have mentioned. It could be that this whole scenario is out to lunch. I am trying to get hold of death records, etc. of William and Helen to see if the names of their parents or somebody are on them in order to confirm all this.
. Now that I have really confused you, may I ask where you descended from? If you have been able to actually read through all this and have made it this far, it would really be great to hear from you.
Heather Anderson
North Battleford, Saskatchewan

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bullet  Noted events in her life were:

• Residence, 1871, Manvers twp, Durham East, Ontario. 873

• Residence, 1879, Manvers twp, Durham County, Ontario. 871


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Ellen married William Anderson, son of John Anderson and Ann Campbell, on 7 Jan 1827 in Fortingall, Perth, Scotland 874.,875 (William Anderson was born in 1800 in Weem, Perth, Scotland 81,874,876,877,878, christened on 4 Jul 1800 in Weem, Perth, Scotland 874,879 and died on 28 Jan 1879 in Manvers twp, Durham County, Ontario 873,880.). The cause of his death was Softening of brain? about 3 months.871


bullet  Marriage Notes:

Note that a detailed search of the LDS IGI files find no children born to the couple of William Anderson and Helen Kennedy in Perthshire, Scotland giving support to this being the couple that appear in Canada and have an extensive family in 1851 in South Monaghan, Ontario. note by jca



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