Marit Nielsdtr.

Marit Nielsdtr.
(1811-1880)

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Marit Nielsdtr. ² ³ ⁴ ⁵ ⁶ ⁷

Born: 26 Oct 1811, Schieslien Farm, Sondre Land, Kristian, Norway ⁸ ⁹ ¹⁰
Christened: 24 Nov 1811, Hoff Parish, Sondre Land, Kristian Cty., Norway
Marriage: Hans Jacobsen on 23 Dec 1839 in Sondre Land, Kristian Cty., Norway ¹
Died: 1880-1885 aged 69 ¹¹

bullet General Notes:

Digitalarkivet: 1865-telling for 0536 Land. , Norway

Distriknr Side Skoledistrikt Sogn Prestegjeld Gardsnavn Overskrift
1676 6 202 Hof vester og søndere Hof Land Hansebakken 1

Personnr Husholdning Fornavn Etternavn Familiestatus Yrke Sivilstand Alder Kjønn Fødested Blandkorn Poteter
10047 30 1 Hans Jakobs. Husfader Husmand med Jord g 50 m Lands Prgj. 1/16 1 1/4
10048 31 Marit Nilsd. hans Kone g 56 k Lands Prgj.
10049 32 Kristian Hans. Deres Søn ug 15 m Lands Prgj.
10050 33 Martin Hans. Deres Søn ug 13 m Lands Prgj.
10051 34 Marte Hansd. Deres Datter ug 27 k Lands Prgj.
10052 35 Peter Peders. Inderst ug 28 m Lands Prgj.
10053 1 Andreas Peters. hans uægte Barn ug 2 m Lands Prgj.
Personnr Husholdning Fornavn Etternavn Familiestatus Yrke Sivilstand Alder Kjønn Fødested Blandkorn Poteter
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Some notes on Marit Nielsdtr to satisfy myself (James C. Anderson of Kelowna B.C. ) that the selection of Marit Nielsdtr. in my family tree was indeed the correct Marit Nielsdtr. from my notes from 1982 and 1986.
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Marit Nielsdtr.

1: 1865 census shows age 56 therefore should have been born in 1909. age difference on the census between Hans and Marit shows 6 year difference. (age 50, and age 56)

2: 1839 marriage record, age of Marit not perfectly readable but clearly shows both of Scheslien farm.
The age shown appears to be age 28. Hans age 22, so 6 year difference
3: the birth record I found was for Marit Nielsdtr. born 1811 to Niels Nielsen and Kari Guldbrandsdtr., child from Scheslien farm.

Is this the correct birth record ? ( dated Jan 1982)

Rechecked birth records.. this is the only one ..Also birth record shows the right father, (Niels Nielsen), shows the right farm (Scheslien farm), only the birth date seems off by 1 or 2 years..

Checking the 1865 census records for this area it appears that other ages are off by 2 years as well. (son Kristian shows age 15 so should have been born in 1850, he actually was born Feb 1851, son Martin shows age 13 so indicates born 1852, actually born in Nov 1853. daughter Marte shows age 27, indicating born 1838 , actually born in Feb 1840.

More: a search for siblings to the above Marit Nielsdtr. turned up
1: Peder Nielsen b. 1804, and
2: Gulbrand Nielsen born 1807,
of the same parents as above (Niels Nielsen and Kari Guldbrandsdtr.)

Now the clincher: In 1839 at the wedding of Marit Nielsdtr . and Hans Jacobsen who were known proven ancestors of mine ) were the following witness's to the marriage.

1: Peder Nielsen
2: Gulbrand Nielsen
3: Karen Nielsen

These obvious siblings of Marit Nielsdtr. leave no doubt that the birth record of Marit Nielsen to Niels Nielsen and Kari Guldbrandsdtr. and the marriage recored of Marit Nielsen to Hans Jacobsen are referring to one and the same Marit Nielsdtr.

(dated Jan 30, 1982,, by James C. Anderson of Kelowna B.C.)

More: A letter from Andreas Pettersen of Norway in my possession dated 1986 who knows the history of the family well, confirmed that Marit had a sister Karen born 1823 so this fits exactly as well.

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bullet Noted events in her life were:

• Confirmation, 15 Oct 1826, Schieslien Farm, Lds 125569.

• Residence, 1865, Engelien Farm, Lds 123104, 1865 Census.

Marit married Hans Jacobsen, son of Jacob Nielsen and Marthe Hansdatter, on 23 Dec 1839 in Sondre Land, Kristian Cty., Norway.¹ (Hans Jacobsen was born on 27 Oct 1817 in Vardal, Oppland, Norway ¹⁵ ¹⁶ ¹⁷ ¹⁸, christened on 9 Nov 1817 in Vardal, Oppland, Norway ¹⁹ and died after 1885 in North Dakota??.)

1 Hans Jacobsen, Marit Nilsdtr. church marriage record, LDS, Hans Jacobsen, Marit Nilsdtr. church marriage record,, LDS film 125569, 1839, marriages, item 32. Hans Jacobsen m. Marit Nilsdtr, Dec 23, 1839, he age 22, she age 30?, grooms father Jacob Nilsen, brides father Nils Nilsen both bride and groom of Schieslien farm.
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2 Lars Larson, Nicolina, marriage certificate, Halfway Creek, La Crosse County, WI, Lars Larson, Nicolina, marriage certificate, Halfway Creek, La Crosse County, WI, parents of Nicoline were Hans Jakobsen and Marit Nilsdotter.

3 Marit Nielsdatter Engelien, emigrant register, Oslo to Milwaukee, 1871, National Archives of Norway, Marit Nielsdatter Engelien, departure to Milwaukee,, Marit Nielsdtr. Engelien. age 56, departing for Milwaukee on the ship "Hero" with sons Martin and Jacob
. Digitalarkivet: Emigrants from Oslo 1867-1930
Record 21712-21717

Harbour No. Year Month Day Given name Last name Sex Status
Occupation Age Residence Destination Remarks Foreigners
Freight Line

21712 Oslo 1679A 1871 Juni 23 Marit Nielsdatter Engelieiet f u Kone 56 S. Land Milwauce 825 Norsk Betalt Hero
21713 Oslo 1679B 1871 Juni 23 Jakob Hansen m u Arb. 22 S. Land Milwauce 826 Norsk Betalt Hero
21714 Oslo 1679C 1871 Juni 23 Martin Hansen m u Arb. 18 S. Land Milwauce 827 Norsk Betalt Her

(note by jca... the age of Marit Nilsdtr on this record is suspect as she claimed to be age 56 earlier on the 1865 census. She should now be age 60)

4 Marit Nielsdtr. church birth record, 1811, Marit Nielsdtr. church birth record, 1811, 24 Nov 1811. Hoff parish, entered 24 Nov 1811, born Marit, daughter of Niels Nielsen and Kari Guldbrandsen child from Schieslien farm. . born 26 Oct , 1811. witnessed by Lars and Anne Engelien, Lars Schieslien, Bertha and Niels Fladlien.

5 Nicolina Hansdtr. (m . Larson ) , death certificate, State of Wisconsin, Nicolina Hansdtr. (m . Larson ) , death certificate, State of Wisconsin, Nicoline Larson, died Nov 13, 1921, maiden name of mother : Marit Jacobson.. (note maiden name was actually Marit Nilsdatter. jca).

6 1865 census, Sondre Land, Norway, Norwegian Census, 1865 census, Sondre Land, Norway,, Hans Jacobsen, age 50, Marit Nilsdtr. age 56. 1865 Census, Hoff Parish, School District 6B, Kristian County, Sondre Land , Norway.

7 Trinity Lutheran Church, Spring Grove, Minnesota, Trinity Lutheran Church, Spring Grove, Minnesota. :
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 16:10:36 -0600
From: Trinity Lutheran Church <trinity@springgrove.coop>
I have found the following information:
Hagbart Julius Hansen (note: older brother of Helmer)
Born 3 July 1875
Baptism 1 August 1875
Parents - Christian Hansen Engelien & Mathilda H. Hillestad
Sponsors - Olaf Anderson, Ole Kn. Pekop, Edvard H. Hillestad, (note: brother of Mathilde)
Thuri Gulbrandedr, Kari K. Pekop
- - - - -
12 September 1874 Marriage of Christian Hansen Engelien and
Mathilda Olava B. Hansen Hillestad
Christian Hansen Engelien - Parents Hans Jacobsen & Marit Nilsdr
Mathilda Olava B. Hansdr Hillestad - Parents Hans Jorg Nilsen & Hellene Hansdr

8 1865 census, Sondre Land, Norway, Norwegian Census, 1865 census, Sondre Land, Norway,, Marit Nilsdtr. age 56.

9 Church records, Sondre Land, Norway, LDS 125567, Church records, Sondre Land, Norway, LDS 125567, christened 24 Nov, 1811., Marit, daughter of Niels Nielsen and Kari Guldbrandsdtr born October 26, . witness to christening, Lars Engelien, Lars Schieslien, Berte and Niels Fladlien.

10 Church records of Sondre Land, Norway. LDS 125569, Church records of Sondre Land, Norway. LDS 125569.

11 1885 census, Erwin Caledonia twp., County of Traill, State of Dakota, North Dakota State University Archives, 1885 census, State of Dakota, County of Traill, Township of Erwin Caledonia (Enumeration. Dist. 13, Supervisors Dist. 2, Page 34), husband Hans Jacobsen a widow on the 1885 census. ( shown as Jacob Hansen, age 68). :
1885 Special US Census - Territorial / Voluntary
Source: Copy obtained from North Dakota State University Archives
Place: State of Dakota, County of Traill, Township of Erwin Caledonia
Enumeration. Dist. 13, Supervisors Dist. 2, Page 34
Name RaceSexAgeMonth RelationMarr Occupation Birthplace

Christian HANSON W M 35 --- Self M Occ: Farmer b: NOR Fa: NOR Mo: NOR
Tilda HANSON W F 28 --- Wife M Occ: Housekeeper b: NOR Fa: NOR Mo: NOR
Hagbat HANSON W M 10 --- Son S Occ: --- b: Minn Fa: NOR Mo: NOR
Helmer M. HANSON W M 8 --- Son S Occ: --- b: Minn Fa: NOR Mo: NOR
Martin L. HANSON W M 6 --- Son S Occ: --- b: Dakota Fa: NOR Mo: NOR
Gena C. HANSON W F 4 --- Daughter S Occ: --- b: Dakota Fa: NOR Mo: NOR
Edwin H. HANSON W M 2 --- Son S Occ: --- b: Dakota Fa: NOR Mo: NOR
Christian HANSON W M 4/12 Jan Son S Occ: --- b: Dakota Fa: NOR Mo: NOR
Jacob HANSON * W M 68 --- Father W Occ: Farmer b: NOR Fa: NOR Mo: NOR
Helena OLSON W F 18 --- Boarder S Occ: Housemaid b: Minn Fa: NOR Mo: NOR

(notes below by Melanie Duryea of Regina Sask)
*Hans Jacobson Englien did purchase this land from Christian April 1884 then sold it back to Tilda in July 1884 - same year.
* (Warranty Deed Record, Traill County, N. Dakota SW24 147 50 W5PM obtained from Traill County Court House Deeds)

12 Marit Nielsdatter Engelien, emigrant register, Oslo to Milwaukee, 1871, National Archives of Norway, Marit Nielsdatter Engelien, departure to Milwaukee,, Marit Nielsdtr. Engelien. age 56, departing for Milwaukee on the ship "Hero" with sons Martin and Jacob
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13 1865 census, Sondre Land, Norway, Norwegian Census, 1865 census, Sondre Land, Norway,, Hans Jacobsen, age 50, Marit Nilsdtr. age 56.

14 Trinity Lutheran Church, Spring Grove, Minnesota, Trinity Lutheran Church, Spring Grove, Minnesota.

15 1865 census, Sondre Land, Norway, Norwegian Census, 1865 census, Sondre Land, Norway,, Hans Jacobsen, age 50.

16 1870 census, Onalaska, LaCrosse Cty, Wisconsin, 1870 census, Onalaska, LaCrosse Cty, Wisconsin. census taken 29th July, 1970

page 23, family 178, living with the Berg family from Sweden.
Hans Jacobsen, age 54 , male, white, farmhand, born in Norway, parents of foreign birth, male citizen of US

page 36, family 266, living with the family of Hans Erickson as a farmhand
Larson, Lars, age 30, male, white, Farmhand, born Norway, parents foreign born, US citizen
page 36, family 267
Larson, Randena, age 34, female, white, Keeping House, born Norway, parents foreign born,
", Lewis, age 9, male, white, at house, born Norway
", Anton, age 7, male, white, at house, born Norway
", John, age 3, male, white, at house, born Wis.
", Anna, age 6/12, female, white, at house, born Wis., parents foreign born, born December

(jca. Lewis, age 9, is ok for Laurits... born in 1860.
(note by jca... Anton, age 7.. is this the same person as Bernt?.. right age ok
(note by jca ... John, age 3.. new to me.. 1880 census doesnt show him..
(jca.. Anna, born 1869 is just fine... but shows up in the records of the Halfway Creek Church, Wisconsin as a death in 1872, "of Lars Larson and Randi")

17 Letter from Terje Nordraak of Oslo, Norway, Terje Nordraak, Letter from Terje Nordraak of Oslo, Norway (Dated Feb 16, 1999 , letter to Shirley J. Hartman of Dodgeville, Wisconsin.), "I think Hans was from Vardal near Gjovik, not so far from Toten and Sondre Land. Born at Oct 27, 1817 and his parents were Jacob Nielsen and Marthe Hansdatter Mjolstad-eie.". Extensive history of Hans Jacobsen, Jacob Nielsen and family
for publication in "Landingen" in Lands Museum, Dokka, Norway
by Terje Nordraak, Frederick Gladsgate 20, 0482 Oslo, Norway

18 1885 census, Erwin Caledonia twp., County of Traill, State of Dakota, North Dakota State University Archives, 1885 census, State of Dakota, County of Traill, Township of Erwin Caledonia (Enumeration. Dist. 13, Supervisors Dist. 2, Page 34).

19 LDS IGI Files , Salt Lake City, LDS IGI Files , Salt Lake City, Christening:
Hans Jacobsen, Gender: Male Christening: 09 NOV 1817 Vardal, Oppland, Norway
Father: Jacob Nielsen, mother: Marte Hansdr.
batch C423353 , 1814-1931, 0125636
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