- Born: 1 Aug 1797, Utica, Oneida Co. New York 125,292,296,297,298,299
- Marriage (1): Elizabeth Monteney about 1820 in Onondaga County, , NY 282,283,284
- Marriage (2): Rosetta Dafoe in 1849 in Queensbush, York, Ontario 132,285
- Marriage (3): Ann Mathews in 1854 286
- Marriage (4): Mrs. Mary Ann Dexter on 10 Mar 1855 in Painsville, Lake County, Ohio 287,288,289
- Died: 13 May 1875, Lake County, Ohio aged 77 300,301,302
- Buried: Evergreen Cemetery, Painesville, Lake County, Ohio 292,302
1860 census, Canton twp, Fillmore County, Minnesota
Samuel Winch, age 63,male, Farmer, value real estate $2000, value personal $300 birth place New York, wife Mary, age 52, son William age 19 Farm Hand, Albert age 17 Farm Hand, Dexter age 16 Farm Hand, Susan age 10. all born New York
(note by jca. this should be Samuel's fourth wife)
Regarding Samuel Winch (jr.) and first wife Elizabeth Mountenay, who was his first wife. Samuel (jr.) did remarry three more times after the death of Elizabeth (Betsy)Mountenay(many spellings of this surname). The second wife whom he married in Canada was Rosetta Dafoe. She died sometime after the birth of their daughter Esther. Again Samuel remarried to a Mary Mathews in Canada. He did not divorce her, as can be shown further on here. One of his married sisters lived across the lake near Painesville Ohio, and Samuel went over there to visit her. She was aquainted with a widow with several children, Mary Dexter, whom Samuel married. Samuel and Mary went on to Minnesota where I find them in Fillmore Co.,signing a land deed in the early 1850's. Several of the sons went there to settle, and had gone there a year or two earlier to start settlement. The family ran sawmills by trade, and ran sawmills for several decades in Fillmore county. I am descended from Asahel, b.1822 before they went to Canada. After Samuel Jr. and fourth wife Mary Dexter were in Minn.,, they at some point returned to Ohio. At Samuel's death they were in Ohio. The death report reached the third wife, Mary Mathews Winch and she challenged the settlement of his estate. After court hearings in 1879-1880 and an estate inventory, the court ruled for the third wife Mary Mathews., leaving fourth wife Mary Dexter Winch with her personal belongings. Samuel is of course buried in the Painseville Cem. The information on the above is written in letters from William Winch, who I believe is your ancestor as shown on the gedcom. If the letters interest I can fax them or send you copies. June Lindquist , Feb. 4, 2001.
Dear Jim, Many thanks for your reply. Yes indeed the name of wife #3 is ANN MATHEWS. I do think we could find her death in Ohio or Michigan if we looked through the databases. Even better to use the AIS (all U.S. census alpha indexed, and locate her as Ann Winch probably alive 1875-1880 or 1885 censuses. She probably used that name. Just have not gotten to it. Too many problems with my mother's other line!! So I have put the Winches aside for a long period, as I had found quite alot of material. Yet much could be done. For instance, Samuel Jr. sisters, Patty (a common nickname diminutive for Martha [her gr. grandmother in the Maynard line] whose married name I believe was HAZELTON, and who later lived in OH, where I think she may be the person who (as Uncle William said in his letters to my Aunt "Father's sister Patty introduced him to Mary Dexter), wife #4. (the widow who had several children, and with whom he went to Minn. to Fillmore county for a while, at least long enough for them both to sign there names on one of the county land records in the mid 1850's. They were also on a census , where she is listed with him, and several of her children as well. From all appearances the "Dexter Winch"on that census, judging from his age must likely be her son from the previous marriage, as the age would not be compatible from the date of their marriage. I do not find evidence of any children from that marriage. There is a Samuel Winch that did live in Minn for a short time. He was I think our Samuel JR.s nephew, the son of his brother John Winch who remained in York County Ontario and died there. that Samuel went back and forth to Ontario, and for all I know could have visited with other family along the way. In the HISTORY of YORK CO. ONTARIO, published Toronto 1885, by C. Blackett Robinson Vol 2.,Page 504, Samuel Winch(JOHN's son) b, 1829 in this township(E/ Gill.).
I do not know when "sister Patty "(on the US Census as Martha Hazelton) died.Their sister "Sukey"Susan Winch married ------Greenwood in Canada perhaps, but have not followed that at all. Must be on a census somewhere, or a messageboard inquiry
Another research might turn up the children of our Samuel Jr. and Betsy Mountenay, and find more material on Betsy. She is a very difficult search. I have no results. Only speculation. I have not properly searched for her burial. According to Uncle William, she was buried at the East Gillenbury(spelled Gwilembery at first) Cemetery, near Allentown and Bradford. (About twelve miles from the town. (that seems about two townships over, if they are the usual six sq. miles) However when Bob and I were there, I mistook the Old homestead to mean the one at Belhaven, just north of Toronto.That cemetery woud be the Mann Cemetery at the village of Keswick. No stones that were old remained. But now as I look at the problem, I can see that to William, the Old homestead to him, woud be where SamuelJR (not SR) and Betsy settled on their own place and started the chidren, Marshall, Asahel, Mariah who married----Kidd, and Mary Jane who m. Newton Mann and went to Missouri, at some point, but they could be found, and I havent done that either. Perhaps one of their descendants would have information on Betsy Mountenay's parentage.
The daughter of Wife # 2, (Rosetta Dafoe who had married Sam.JR and died shortly) was named Esther Susan Winch and she married a man named William Mitson, and they lived in Minnesota at the time of the 1869-72 court suit about Sam.Jr. estate.
Sorry this has gotten so very long, but it is like a novel??
Regards., June Lindquist, same correct address., Berkeley, Calif.
Noted events in his life were:
• Alt. Birth, Abt 1797, New York, Age 60 , 1857 Census, Minnesota.
• Residence, 1822, Onandaga County, New York.
• Residence: a log house, 1851, Maryborough, Wellington North, Ontario. 134
• Occupation: Farmer, 1851, Maryborough, Wellington North, Ontario. 134
• Residence, 1860, Canton, Fillmore County, Minn. 305
• Residence, 1865, Minnesota. 306
• Residence: Farmer, 1870, Mentor twp, Lake County, Ohio. 298
Samuel married Elizabeth Monteney, daughter of Joseph Monteney and Margaret Frank, about 1820 in Onondaga County, , NY 282,307.,308 (Elizabeth Monteney was born about 1799 near Utica, Oneida Cty., New York,125,309,310 died in Aug 1847 in East Gwillimbury, Ontario, Canada 311,312,313 and was buried in Gwillimbury, (Lake Simco), Ontario.)
Samuel next married Rosetta Dafoe, daughter of Unknown and Unknown, in 1849 in Queensbush, York, Ontario 132.,285 (Rosetta Dafoe died in 1852 in Ontario 132,314.)
Samuel next married Ann Mathews in 1854.286
The State of Ohio, in the probate court of Lake County, in the matter of the Estate of Samuel Winch, deceased. court decision brought down 24 th day of November, 1877.
1877, Ann (Mathews) Winch (wife #3) declared by court as "heir at law" defeats Mary Dexter Winch (wife #4),
Court rejects Mary A. Winch's claim, and orders children to pay court costs. ________________________________________________________________
Samuel next married Mrs. Mary Ann Dexter, daughter of Thomas Lapham and Catherine Megley, on 10 Mar 1855 in Painsville, Lake County, Ohio 287,315.,316 (Mrs. Mary Ann Dexter was born on 17 Aug 1808 in New York,133,298,302,317,318,319 died on 6 Dec 1892 302 and was buried in Evergreen Cemetery, Painesville, Lake County, Ohio 302.)
Deed Record for Fillmore County, Minnestota, Book Y, page 462
Sale of property for $4000 from Samuel Winch and Mary A. Winch his wife to Martin Beach, the 16th day of September, 1867.
"The South East quater of Section Thirty four in Township one hundred and one Range Nine West containing one hundred and Sixty Acres more or less"